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[hoosierpap]

15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Of course I’m mad at IU. Other programs consistently cheat their butts off and reap the rewards of it. We do things the “right” way, miss the tournament more often than we make it, and regularly get clowned by the media. IU would rather consider a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 seasons than the guy who has his 1 seed in the sweet 16 and has interest in the job. It’s a joke. IU makes it loud and clear that a good basketball program isn’t its top priority, which is frustrating as hell to me. All I want is for IU to be a great program again, but the administration refuses to let it happen.

That’s a different and larger conversation and one I’m willing to have. There is probably a thread on it, I’ll look. I’m just telling you IU has made that decision. 

[hoosierpap]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Is this on “good authority” or is it “unimpeachable”?

Neither lol

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I think we need to hire somebody this weekend. We don’t want programs to convince our players to leave and the more time they have the better of a chance they have to do it. As of right now this is who I believe will come back. 
 
Lander- Will come back.                                          
TJD- Will come back.                                         
Armaan- Will come back 
Geromino- Is not coming back 
Race- 50/50
Parker- I hope he comes back since he has been through so much and he is a great shooter so hopefully the new coach convinces him so I think 50/50 
Al- Not coming back 

So no "homerun" hire?

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Another rumor for the rumor mill....my wife works in a large (class 6A) Indiana high school, and the folks in the athletic department there believe the hire will be Beilein with Calbert as the coach-in-waiting.  They have heard Beilein will coach 3 years and then turn the reins over to Calbert.  I asked her who they heard this from and she has no idea.  It kind of makes sense if they're considering Beilein, but I don't know....maybe they know something, maybe they don't.  

I'd be fine with it, although I don't believe they would tell Bielien only 3 years

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[HoosierTrav]

22 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Of course I’m mad at IU. Other programs consistently cheat their butts off and reap the rewards of it. We do things the “right” way, miss the tournament more often than we make it, and regularly get clowned by the media. IU would rather consider a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 seasons than the guy who has his 1 seed in the sweet 16 and has interest in the job. It’s a joke. IU makes it loud and clear that a good basketball program isn’t its top priority, which is frustrating as hell to me. All I want is for IU to be a great program again, but the administration refuses to let it happen.

We don’t know who is being considered by Dolson. Everything we’ve heard has been pure speculation. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

That’s a different and larger conversation and one I’m willing to have. There is probably a thread on it, I’ll look. I’m just telling you IU has made that decision. 

I would’ve been more surprised if they hadn’t made that decision, honestly. Sorry if it seemed like I was being harsh toward you, IU just really frustrates me sometimes. 

[HOOsier Thunder]

16 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I'm really sick of the Moser crap. He's doesn't deserve an interview or any interest from IU. I'd rather have Cheaney who is a complete mystery than someone we know will fail. 

No one knows whether he would succeed. You’re just patently pacist. Which is unsurprising for a fast food item, I suppose.

 

Moser is a gamble with a mixed track record, but his recent success is very impressive. He’s not a sure thing by any means, but I would rather gamble on someone with significant head coaching experience who has had the opportunity to learn from his failures and demonstrate growth and success, than someone who has never experienced either.

[MikeRoberts]

5 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We don’t know who is being considered by Dolson. Everything we’ve heard has been pure speculation. 

We know he zeroed in on Holtmann because Goodman said so/)

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Didn't Self leave a good situation for Kansas? 

Yes. Illinois fans over here still haven't forgiven him

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[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'm confident that Drew will come if offered.  Are you guys ready to bury the hatchet regarding HMP or should we bring in Lewis or Woodson?  Those very well could be the only options.

I could care the f less about HMP.  

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

You can be mad at IU if you want, idc either way, but there has been a decision to not pursue coaches who have put their programs on probation.

I'm fine with that.

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[HoosierFan1994]

Saw a good process of elimination post from earlier and I thought I'd give a crack at it:

OUT

Beard- Would've heard chatter by now and I think he's going to Texas.

Beilein- Would've been hired by now but I think he could be the fallback guy. 

Cheaney- Would've been hire by now. Think it was a courtesy interview. 

Fife-Would've been hired by now.

Matta-Would've been hired by now.

Woodson-Would've been hired by now. Think it was a courtesy interview. 

In-Play

Atlman- Supposedly his reps are interested. His teams had some bad off court issues and I’m afraid that’s a no no for our administration. 

Lewis- Still coaching but he is an assistant. Doesn't make sense. 

Moser- Peegs mods are in love with him. Just doesn't make sense like Lewis. Style doesn't match up with Dolson. Also doubt he was at the top of his list before the tournament. 

Musselman- Team is still playing. Plus he plays the style that Dolson talked about. 

Stevens- Still a long shot but he is technically not available right now. I do believe our guy Chris. He's by no means saying it'll happen, but his people give it a shot. 

???- Someone nobody is talking about. Could it be Oats? 

My "hot board"

1. Musselman

2. ????

3. Stevens

 

[IU Scott]

1 hour ago, hoosierpap said:

You can be mad at IU if you want, idc either way, but there has been a decision to not pursue coaches who have put their programs on probation.

That is a good thing if you ask me

[HoosierTrav]

This Loyola defense is super impressive. They have every action OR ST is throwing at them. 

[IU Scott]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Of course I’m mad at IU. Other programs consistently cheat their butts off and reap the rewards of it. We do things the “right” way, miss the tournament more often than we make it, and regularly get clowned by the media. IU would rather consider a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 seasons than the guy who has his 1 seed in the sweet 16 and has interest in the job. It’s a joke. IU makes it loud and clear that a good basketball program isn’t its top priority, which is frustrating as hell to me. All I want is for IU to be a great program again, but the administration refuses to let it happen.

I never want IU to win at any cost and rather lose every game than cheat.  It is a sad day for me to see any IU fan that would be alright with cheating if it means a championship/

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said:

This Loyola defense is super impressive. They have every action OR ST is throwing at them. 

Or St may or may not score a field goal this half.

[Zachetology]

Loyola is the team that Wisconsin tries to be.

[Demo]

16 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

This Loyola defense is super impressive. They have every action OR ST is throwing at them. 

Their footwork and movement as a group is so good. They are forcing these long possessions but maintaining cohesion except for the 1 baseline miscommunication. I know it bugs some folks, but that’s really good coaching. 

[12345Brad]

14 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Saw a good process of elimination post from earlier and I thought I'd give a crack at it:

OUT

Beard- Would've heard chatter by now and I think he's going to Texas.

Beilein- Would've been hired by now but I think he could be the fallback guy. 

Cheaney- Would've been hire by now. Think it was a courtesy interview. 

Fife-Would've been hired by now.

Matta-Would've been hired by now.

Woodson-Would've been hired by now. Think it was a courtesy interview. 

In-Play

Atlman- Supposedly his reps are interested. His teams had some bad off court issues and I’m afraid that’s a no no for our administration. 

Lewis- Still coaching but he is an assistant. Doesn't make sense. 

Moser- Peegs mods are in love with him. Just doesn't make sense like Lewis. Style doesn't match up with Dolson. Also doubt he was at the top of his list before the tournament. 

Musselman- Team is still playing. Plus he plays the style that Dolson talked about. 

Stevens- Still a long shot but he is technically not available right now. I do believe our guy Chris. He's by no means saying it'll happen, but his people give it a shot. 

???- Someone nobody is talking about. Could it be Oats? 

My "hot board"

1. Musselman

2. ????

3. Stevens

 

Assuming Stevens and Beard are out, I would hope it’s Muss followed by Beilein as a bridge/band-aid.  Even 5-7 years of Beilein - you know it’s a good 5-7 years.  Maybe, just maybe Moser - but just seems too risky given the fragile state of the program now. Need as close to a guarantee as possible (I realize there’s always a risk). 
 

I still don’t think the $10mm was raised just to get Stevens. I think Dolson realized the program was in neutral and the offense was not attracting recruits nationally - and ultimately the tipping point was the free agency off-season - any new coach can accelerate any rebuild by August.  
 

Sure there may have been some mutual interest from Stevens and nobody expected Texas to lose first round - but Muss is solid and Beilien wouldn’t be a horrible last resort. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I never want IU to win at any cost and rather lose every game than cheat.  It is a sad day for me to see any IU fan that would be alright with cheating if it means a championship/

Did you root for the 2016 IU conference champion and sweet 16 team?