General Coach Candidate News

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22 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Can we just hire Beilein already?

Seems like he's the choice if all tournament coaches have no interest. 

Similar feelings. I'm glad we made a what seems to have been hard at Brad.  It's time to bring on Beilein.  I like his lein of thinking. He used brooms during practice to simulate the  lenthy Cuse team defense at the big dance in '13. It wouldn't suprise me if the idea of brown garden gloves to focus on catching passes came from John B of which Max B brought from Michigan. I could be wrong as to John being the source of where that came from. I believe the timing may have been about right iirc.

The age concern is understandable, but I think he could have us making a run in the dance in 23 if not 22. Bring on Beilein.

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Feel like this is the first year in a while where there isn’t a hot commodity at a mid  major 

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1 minute ago, TheDarkKnight69 said:

Feel like this is the first year in a while where there isn’t a hot commodity at a mid  major 

Totally correct. And jobs are going to be popping up quickly over the next few years. MSU, Duke, UNC, etc. Dolson is going to GET IT. Keep the faith, fellas (and ladies).

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2 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight69 said:

Feel like this is the first year in a while where there isn’t a hot commodity at a mid  major 

If you erased Porter Moser's first stint in coaching I think that he probably would be the one. I think he is probably a really good coach that is highly dependent on the right fit(which is why I would not want him at IU).

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The fact that we’re even discussing coaches with zero head coaching experience on the D1 level is gross.
 
The media wasn’t wrong huh..

Lol. Neither you, me, the pundits or anyone else has no idea who Dolson is considering.

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My god guys why do you flip out with every little tidbit on a message board.  Also nobody on here or any fan out there has no clue how a coach will do in any situation.  Most people said Archie was a home run and couldn't see a way he would failed.  We have no idea if Beard, Musselman or Oats would do any better here than anyone else.

I wish people would stop saying every name thrown out there would be a disaster.  It would be nice seeing people go in with an open mind instead of going into with a negative outlook.  Could this be some of the reason we might not get certain coaches.

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43 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

My god guys why do you flip out with every little tidbit on a message board.  Also nobody on here or any fan out there has no clue how a coach will do in any situation.  Most people said Archie was a home run and couldn't see a way he would failed.  We have no idea if Beard, Musselman or Oats would do any better here than anyone else.

I wish people would stop saying every name thrown out there would be a disaster.  It would be nice seeing people go in with an open mind instead of going into with a negative outlook.  Could this be some of the reason we might not get certain coaches.

1. People flipping out on message boards is most certainly NOT any part of the reason we might not get certain coaches.
2. Debating every name out there is kinda what message boards do when passionate fanbases have a coaching search. 
3. As you said above, having an open mind about candidates is a GREAT idea. Remember, there is at least one between 35 and 45 years old future Hall of Fame coach or assistant coach right now that would love to be our head coach, starting this week.

       I'm hoping Dolson will identify him.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

When Calbert Cheaney was on Crean’s staff the players absolutely loved him.

Also he was on the bench for Crean's best two years at IU

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1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

Rabby is about to be on the radio with JMV.

Just listened to the last part of JMV interview with Rabby.  First he said Matta and IU talked but nothing beyond that and there were no offer or physical and he said he heard that from a lot of people..  Also he said just because you hear names doesn't mean it is more than just a call to check on things.

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I´ve come to one conclusion in this thread....one person knows who Scott Dolson is pursuing....

 

Scott Dolson

 

NO ONE ELSE

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,248]

1. People flipping out on message boards is most certainly NOT any part of the reason we might not get certain coaches.
2. Debating every name out there is kinda what message boards do when passionate fanbases have a coaching search. 
3. Having an open mind about candidates is a GREAT idea. Remember, there is at least one future Hall of Fame coach between 35 and 45 years old that would love to be our head coach, starting this week.

                                                            I'm hoping Dolson will find him.

Nothing wrong with discussing the names being bandied about on social mediaor message boards. I enjoy that.
I laugh at the posts that say/imply Dolson is only looking at those names that have been thrown out there and then saying we are screwed.
No one k ows what is going on.


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1 hour ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Calbert?  Lol. He's my all time favorite player but no way.  This would be a massive let down.  Like 10% chance he'd be successful here.

Why is that because you have no idea who will work or who won't.  Most thought Archie was a homerun hire and how did that turn out.  It is so tiring seeing people take such a negative outlook even before anything has happened.  I now see why this fan base is the laughing stock of the college basketball world and everyone laughs at us.

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1 hour ago, Iubravos said:

Why do people want an IU guy? I don't get it unless you don't want to win.  Get the best coach!!!!!!

Because we know what has worked at IU and what it took to win here.  we have seen what going away from the IU way has done the last 20 years and it has not worked.

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Does anyone think the Altman rumor of being interested is remotely based in reality? Full disclosure, I knew very little about him, but after some research that would be a no brainer. He has gotten better and better since he started coaching, and his worst season at Oregon, his first, they still won the CBI. Now say what you will about the CBI, but getting a high major team up for a tournament like that regardless of opponent to me, is a sure sign of a good coach and motivator. His last 8 seasons have been as good as basically any coach in the country. I get we are being ageist now, but he isn't that old, and has some midwestern ties.  Grab a coach like that, and staff it out with some "IU" guys and I think we are really making moves.

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1 hour ago, Josh said:

I don't want to hire somebody who has never been a head coach before.  Hard pass.

Izzo, Boheim, Roy Williams were all hired by power conference teams without HC experience

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22 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Why is that because you have no idea who will work or who won't.  Most thought Archie was a homerun hire and how did that turn out.  It is so tiring seeing people take such a negative outlook even before anything has happened.  I now see why this fan base is the laughing stock of the college basketball world and everyone laughs at us.

Of course no one knows who will or won't be successful. If someone does, PM me please - I'd love some powerball numbers. 

The issue with the whole IU guy conversation is it isn't rational. The ONLY reason those guys are being talked about is because they went to IU. That isn't enough to be the head coach here - especially when you have zero head coaching experience. It would be a risk and right now, we need to hire someone who will give us the best chance at winning and the argument for an IU guy (given the current IU guys in the convo) is just so, so weak. 

Why isn't Calbert, Woodson, Fife, etc being considered for other big time jobs? Probably because outside of IU fans, no one knows who they are. I do not understand why people think their mediocre coaching record (if they even have one as a HC) will all of a sudden change when they get back to Bloomington. Like there's some mystical force in the Bloomington air that only IU grads can feel. I want a coach that can coach and has proven it. That's what we need, that's what we all should want, that's what we all deserve. Stop giving people chances and relying on hope. There are proven HCs out there. You want to know how you get out of the ditch our program is in - stop digging. 

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1 minute ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Does anyone think the Altman rumor of being interested is remotely based in reality? Full disclosure, I knew very little about him, but after some research that would be a no brainer. He has gotten better and better since he started coaching, and his worst season at Oregon, his first, they still won the CBI. Now say what you will about the CBI, but getting a high major team up for a tournament like that regardless of opponent to me, is a sure sign of a good coach and motivator. His last 8 seasons have been as good as basically any coach in the country. I get we are being ageist now, but he isn't that old, and has some midwestern ties.  Grab a coach like that, and staff it out with some "IU" guys and I think we are really making moves.

He's using IU for more Nike $ in my opinion. Whether just an increase in his own salary or an increase in his own salary plus a higher player pay rolll, I'm not sure. 

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

 Grab a coach like that, and staff it out with some "IU" guys and I think we are really making moves.

Would you take a job if you were told that a condition of the job is that you hire 'x' and 'y' with no previous experience in working with them?  I think your candidate pool just gets smaller if that's Dolson's pitch and I really don't think it is.

 

 

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1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Of course no one knows who will or won't be successful. If someone does, PM me please - I'd love some powerball numbers. 

The issue with the whole IU guy conversation is it isn't rational. The ONLY reason those guys are being talked about is because they went to IU. That isn't enough to be the head coach here - especially when you have zero head coaching experience. It would be a risk and right now, we need to hire someone who will give us the best chance at winning and the argument for an IU guy (given the current IU guys in the convo) is just so, so weak. 

Why isn't Calbert, Woodson, Fife, etc being considered for other big time jobs? Probably because outside of IU fans, no one knows who they are. 

Woodson is a little unfair to put into that group. He’s had jobs literally bigger than being the IU head coach before.

 

not to say Woodson is my number one option, but comparing him to Fife of Cheaney is silly.

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2 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Seriously? Sounds a lot like the Bob Knight conundrum... he was melting down at every turn, punching cops and throwing LSU fans in trash cans all while demanding that the players toe the line... If you want respect,  you have to show respect. If you expect disciplined players, the coach has to be disciplined... going through the process of earning a college degree is not difficult, but it does require some discipline.... It says that you submitted yourself to the process and, some would say, rigors of doing the work to earn something.

My wife is an admin at a local D-1 college... she needed a degree to get that job. Any monkey can type on a keyboard with/without a degree... but it shows that she submitted herself to something and followed it through to completion. It speaks volumes about character and commitment. It's not "just stupid standards for no reason".

Most jobs don't need degrees. Just training. You don't need a degree to coach basketball. Plain and simple. Just crappy ways to get a lot of money by schools.