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[OldBuddy67]

Maybe Liddel is staying in the draft. I’d gladly take facing Brunk next year over Liddel twice next year!

[Dalton26]

I hope TJD absolutely dominates him. 

[fwgreenway]

Best of luck to Joey. To me it's disappointing he went anywhere in the BIG. Makes total sense having a prior relationship to coach Holtman. Close to home must play into the decision as well as potential playing time? 

[Hovadipo]

12 hours ago, Dalton26 said:

I hope TJD absolutely dominates him. 

I don’t think you’ll be holding your breath too much. 

[jumpshot53]

I was really shocked to read some Ohio State forums where people were so down on Coach Holtman.  They disliked Brunk coming to Ohio State and blamed it on Holtman's awful recruiting.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, jumpshot53 said:

I was really shocked to read some Ohio State forums where people were so down on Coach Holtman.  They disliked Brunk coming to Ohio State and blamed it on Holtman's awful recruiting.

I was surprised, but I was reading pretty much the same thing.  It filled their last roster spot and they basically said that it showed his 'failure to land Efton Reid' (top 25 2021, 6'11" center).  While I know the sentiment of a fan base to think they are going to get the recruits they want, I think a little slack needs to be given to Holtmann by them because he HAS succeeded.

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I was surprised, but I was reading pretty much the same thing.  It filled their last roster spot and they basically said that it showed his 'failure to land Efton Reid' (top 25 2021, 6'11" center).  While I know the sentiment of a fan base to think they are going to get the recruits they want, I think a little slack needs to be given to Holtmann by them because he HAS succeeded.

It’s always interesting to see it from a fans perspective what everyone’s definition of success is.   I believe he has done a solid job since he as been there but an argument could be made by some that he hasn’t succeeded as much as he could have.   Hasn’t been past the second round and lost to a 15 seed this year.   Recruiting has been up and down.   He brought in a solid national ranked class that had  most of them transferring or seeking professional route.  I think he is really good coach but I can’t blame their fans for wanting more then a second round finish.   They should be preseason top 10 next year so he will have an opportunity to silence them 

[MikeRoberts]

12 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I was surprised, but I was reading pretty much the same thing.  It filled their last roster spot and they basically said that it showed his 'failure to land Efton Reid' (top 25 2021, 6'11" center).  While I know the sentiment of a fan base to think they are going to get the recruits they want, I think a little slack needs to be given to Holtmann by them because he HAS succeeded.

That O$U job is a fishbowl, fans with unrealistic expectations and will jump on a coach for the smallest things. 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

That O$U job is a fishbowl, fans with unrealistic expectations and will jump on a coach for the smallest things. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

It’s always interesting to see it from a fans perspective what everyone’s definition of success is.   I believe he has done a solid job since he as been there but an argument could be made by some that he hasn’t succeeded as much as he could have.   Hasn’t been past the second round and lost to a 15 seed this year.   Recruiting has been up and down.   He brought in a solid national ranked class that had  most of them transferring or seeking professional route.  I think he is really good coach but I can’t blame their fans for wanting more then a second round finish.   They should be preseason top 10 next year so he will have an opportunity to silence them 

Interestingly, his best year there was his first year and he hasn't gotten close to that again. 25-9 and 15-3 in the conference. He's only gone 31-30 in the Big Ten over the past three seasons, along with the meh tournament results as you described. I'd take their past four years in a heartbeat over our past four obviously, but I can see why their fans are getting antsy. He has big shoes to fill with how well Matta did at OSU before him. 

[MikeRoberts]

10 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I think you understand that Holtmann didn’t want the IU job, and those were his reasons. I’ve always said, O$U is way worse and will can their most successful coach ever where you get to live in mediocrity at IU for years before being canned

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I think you understand that Holtmann didn’t want the IU job, and those were his reasons. I’ve always said, O$U is way worse and will can their most successful coach ever where you get to live in mediocrity at IU for years before being canned

Yeah but the difference is despite the noise by some of their  fans his job is no where near in jeopardy with those results despite not making it past the second round.  He will probably get an extension if he hasn’t already.   Majority of Ohio st fans are worried about the spring game then they are about getting beat by Oral Roberts    
Of course fans on their basketball message boards are upset but I’m guessing that’s a small number compared to their football forum that probably has 20 threads about the new quarterback 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I think you understand that Holtmann didn’t want the IU job, and those were his reasons. I’ve always said, O$U is way worse and will can their most successful coach ever where you get to live in mediocrity at IU for years before being canned

Going to have to agree to disagree if you think the Ohio State basketball job brings more pressure than the Indiana job.  Ohio State would never fire a coach who was one year removed from a Big Ten title or two titles in five years.

[HoosierHoopster]

3 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

That O$U job is a fishbowl, fans with unrealistic expectations and will jump on a coach for the smallest things. 

When did we change our name to OSU?

:)

[bodsbums]

Hoosier living in Ohio for 21 years. No one here gives a crap about OSU basketball unless they are top 5. 

[MikeRoberts]

3 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

Going to have to agree to disagree if you think the Ohio State basketball job brings more pressure than the Indiana job.  Ohio State would never fire a coach who was one year removed from a Big Ten title or two titles in five years.

They fired a coach that won the conference championship 40% of the time and was national runner up twice. That is leagues better than anything Crean or any coach at IU has done since the early 90s
 

I guess we will have to agree to disagree that their standards are leagues higher than IU’s and continues to be under Holtmann. If Archie had his success he would still be here, signing an extension and all of us would be thrilled and the last thing we would be nit picking is picking up Joey Brunk 

[mike vannice]

Anyone know why the staff has not reached out to Langston Wilson, the Alabama de-commit. He is an incredible athlete who can rebound and shoot the 3. Would seem to be a perfect fit for Coach Woodson's system.

[MikeRoberts]

2 hours ago, bodsbums said:

Hoosier living in Ohio for 21 years. No one here gives a crap about OSU basketball unless they are top 5. 

That’s the sad part. Nobody cares about O$U basketball yet they have been WAY better than us for almost 30 years and if they start to slide, the few fans they have are up in arms and the admin cuts ties 

[JJacks]

I'll give you 10-15 years but O$U hasn't been better than IU since 1991. 

[MikeRoberts]

18 minutes ago, JJacks said:

I'll give you 10-15 years but O$U hasn't been better than IU since 1991. 

Did you look that up before making that comment? They have won the bigten championship in 9/30 seasons. Decent yeah?

they have more wins, more bigten wins, more BIGTEN championships, more bigten tourney wins and championships, more tournament wins... they have been better in all facets in the last 30 years!