NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'd argue it's hard to keep 11-13 happy let alone sometimes the guys 1-10.  Nowadays, I'm not sure how you keep 11-13 happy besides setting the expectations, but even then.  

+1.  The group that Pitino has put together is Soriano, Dingle and s bunch of guys.  We’ll see how Dingle translates, but so many of the players he’s put together are redundant.  Wilcher makes sense because he has four years but having 14 scholarship guys at this point doesn’t.  I’m thinking the Daniss Jenkins rumors might have some legs and there are transfer issues with him.  

[Tasmanian Devil]

 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Yep. If Reeves will come and make IU better, you have to do it, despite hurt feelings and diminished opportunities for current players. 

I prefer the traditional dymnamic of building a team and developing players over time, but like much in our society that is a thing of the past. We prefer "right now" over what is "right", so guys will leave and a new crop will come in. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not. Let's hope IU has the right ingredients for a special season. 

Agree with your first point completely.

As for your second point? I'm pretty sure that in the 'good old days' when Keith Smart and Dean Garrett parachuted into Bloomington, "developed" three year or more players like Todd Meier, Magnus Pelkowski, Steve Eyl, Kreigh Smith, and Brian Sloan thought to themselves; "Sh!t, I guess I'm not playing much this year after all."  And if the transfer rules didn't require them to sit out a year to play their senior year? It's a reasonable assumption that a few of them would have been gonzo.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

Absolutely, was never a perfect world, just now with the ease of ejecting the guys that could develop (Gunn for example) are much more likely to bolt. 

Although we've had some in-state kids bolt, to me it's still far more likely that the out of state kids will bolt if they don't see a rotation role for themselves.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Can’t worry too much about playing time and the portal though.  The best and better players will play.  Almost all players will get chances in games and in practice it should be fairly obvious where the chips lie.  I mean, we want great chemistry but all teams have hiccups.  Win at a high enough level things will work out.  
 

Duncomb, Bates, Geronimo is a pretty nice set of players.  They ended up at Mizzou, Xavier, Maryland to good programs and good coaches.  We like the guys we got in return.  This will likely be an annual trend to an extent. 

[Josh]

2 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

6 freshmen, 2 sophs who have 96 minutes between them. Train wreck waiting to happen.

I believe Purdoo has that term trademarked

[Scotty R]

2 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Understood... but the goal is not to get a 11-13 player, but to get a 5-8 player and then everyone gets bumped back a spot... with the exception of a guy like Leal, what coach is actively recruiting a player projected to fall that low on the depth chart? And then there's the "preferred walk-on" players - that, too, is a special kind of lunacy...

If you try to get all 4 and 4 star players you won't ever use all 13 scholarships.  Most teams don't use all 13 anyways especially teams like UK, Duke and KU or most of the top teams.

[Scotty R]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Agree with your first point completely.

As for your second point? I'm pretty sure that in the 'good old days' when Keith Smart and Dean Garrett parachuted into Bloomington, "developed" three year or more players like Todd Meier, Magnus Pelkowski, Steve Eyl, Kreigh Smith, and Brian Sloan thought to themselves; "Sh!t, I guess I'm not playing much this year after all."  And if the transfer rules didn't require them to sit out a year to play their senior year? It's a reasonable assumption that a few of them would have been gonzo.

Steve Eyl played plenty even after those two came here. The rest of those guys  were pretty much like Leal

[IUFAN1976]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Steve Eyl played plenty even after those two came here. The rest of those guys  were pretty much like Leal

If I remember right, Kreigh Smith played some and Sloan got on the court because he was willing to screen for shooters.   But they weren’t the caliber of players as Garrett and Smart so they accepted their roles

[RaceToTheTop]

4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Steve Eyl played plenty even after those two came here. The rest of those guys  were pretty much like Leal

Brian Sloan played more after those two came, not less.

[Scotty R]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

If I remember right, Kreigh Smith played some and Sloan got on the court because he was willing to screen for shooters.   But they weren’t the caliber of players as Garrett and Smart so they accepted their roles

Sloan didn't play much until the 88 and 89 seasons. I have watched a little  of the old games from the then and the first only time Smith or Meier came in was at the end of the first half due to foul problems 

[Scotty R]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Brian Sloan played more after those two came, not less.

Sloan didn't play much at all in the 86-87 season. It was the next two years that he played the most

[Alford Bailey]

Sloan screen #45?  Oh wait is he in the transfer portal?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Kentucky Insiders convinced Reeves is coming back to UK now as things have changed.

Sounds like Hart or Hold at 12 if that’s the case.


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[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kentucky Insiders convinced Reeves is coming back to UK now as things have changed.

Sounds like Hart or Hold at 12 if that’s the case.


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Maybe.  Sounds like Kentucky is trying to form a collective (can't believe they didn't already have one).   But there are suitors out there....Indiana and Illinois among them.  Reeves can bide his time.

[Tasmanian Devil]

12 hours ago, Josh said:

I believe Purdoo has that term trademarked

Trademark? Don’t know for sure.

But after 3 straight losses to double-digit seeds - including the arguably WORST loss in the history of the NCAA Tournament - they certainly are monopolizing the term. 

[BGVille Hoosierfan]

16 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kentucky Insiders convinced Reeves is coming back to UK now as things have changed.

Sounds like Hart or Hold at 12 if that’s the case.


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Yup. Reeves heading back to UK in a crazy turn of events. From what I gathered, Reeves did not want to go back but Cal must’ve backed the Brinks truck up with this “non-collective” collective.

[cthomas]

1 hour ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said:

Yup. Reeves heading back to UK in a crazy turn of events. From what I gathered, Reeves did not want to go back but Cal must’ve backed the Brinks truck up with this “non-collective” collective.

So, are we in the 'roll with what we got' mode now?

[Home Jersey]

Bummer if Reeves is really out of the picture. That said, I'm ready to roll with Trey, CJ and Jakai at the 2. 

Hopefully Newton is healthy and Gunn is ready to go. I am fairly optimistic. 

Trey has earned the starting spot, I like him next to X. 

[TheWatShot]

Figured we wouldn't get Wilcher or Reeves. It's IU basketball, after all; can't have too many good things happening in the same offseason.