IUFAN1976 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Yes? There’s like a thousand guys in the portal. If we can’t land impact players at positions of need, then there will be opportunities to land end of the rotation guys later on. When we don’t land players right away, the more optimistic folks point out that it’s early, that players will continue to enter the portal, and that Kansas State had two players on July 1st. Now we need to be in a rush to fill one of our few remaining scholarships with a mediocre backup big? I don’t think we rushed or panic but I do agree with you, why fill one of the 3 remaining scholarships on someone who will only be a backup, we can wait to get that type of player plus we could use Banks in that role in a pinch. Let’s concentrate on major needs first than work on plugging some holes later Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said: I don’t think we rushed or panic but I do agree with you, why fill one of the 3 remaining scholarships on someone who will only be a backup, we can wait to get that type of player plus we could use Banks in that role in a pinch. Let’s concentrate on major needs first than work on plugging some holes later Why? Because adding an excellent depth piece does not, in any way, preclude, limit, or deter us from pursuing or prevent top wing options from popping for IU. A "bad add" would be: A player that expects 30 mpg and won't be a plus if he gets 30 mpg, Prevents other top players from committing, or Isn't a good fit culturally. So if we can add Anthony Walker I will be very happy. We needed a depth big that can defend and is a solid, positive locker room presence. In that sense, Anthony Walker is a flat out home run. thebigweave, Hoosierfan1901, hper50 and 5 others 6 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 I don’t think we rushed or panic but I do agree with you, why fill one of the 3 remaining scholarships on someone who will only be a backup, we can wait to get that type of player plus we could use Banks in that role in a pinch. Let’s concentrate on major needs first than work on plugging some holes laterIn theory this is correct. But in reality, the staff MIGHT be being realistic and being honest in recruiting. If so, and hopefully, it pays off, that would lead to a much better locker room with guys somewhat knowing their role, etc. Also, eventually the honest approach )if that’s what we are doing) will spread out to coaches/players. I think recruiting HSers you never know who’s likely to earn the PT. I think with TP, minute distribution stuff is a little more predictable. Now, granted, bench guys can always steal minutes and their needs to be that internal motivation and the coaches need to reward strong bench play too. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app CSP and Hovadipo 2 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Jaden Dingle stuff https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-transfer-portal-names-to-know-penns-jordan-dingle/?fbclid=IwAR0MgdMEN7UeAXwKUW9kHLKA_PHxUTDplP2YVcWQFkqAfSRZqXj1Nj1Xp2c https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Penn-basketball-star-Jordan-Dingle-Ivy-League-Player-of-the-Year-enters-NCAA-transfer-portal--209115418/?fbclid=IwAR0-EVPiM0eTQvdlELWoooX7F49csbqdcSFZXtlboCB37KidtvZrPYsf5-M https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/indiana-basketball-pursuing-penn-transfer-jordan-dingle-ivy-league-player-of-the-year?fbclid=IwAR0j49IMCxedOxFoyxEbxO7ykU491ztYEHGFF-xPKWdQTccanA2bYRE85lk Stuhoo and NVFalcons1990 2 Quote
Artie86 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: Jaden Dingle stuff https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-transfer-portal-names-to-know-penns-jordan-dingle/?fbclid=IwAR0MgdMEN7UeAXwKUW9kHLKA_PHxUTDplP2YVcWQFkqAfSRZqXj1Nj1Xp2c https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Penn-basketball-star-Jordan-Dingle-Ivy-League-Player-of-the-Year-enters-NCAA-transfer-portal--209115418/?fbclid=IwAR0-EVPiM0eTQvdlELWoooX7F49csbqdcSFZXtlboCB37KidtvZrPYsf5-M https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/indiana-basketball-pursuing-penn-transfer-jordan-dingle-ivy-league-player-of-the-year?fbclid=IwAR0j49IMCxedOxFoyxEbxO7ykU491ztYEHGFF-xPKWdQTccanA2bYRE85lk I can't stop thinking about his name and it reminds me of Django...lol! WayneFleekHoosier and Joe_hoopsier 1 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 I can't stop thinking about his name and it reminds me of Django...lol! It’s Django…….Love Tarantino flicks. This is a good one. Christoph Waltz good. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Artie86 and ziggyiu 2 Quote
str8baller Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Because adding an excellent depth piece does not, in any way, preclude, limit, or deter us from pursuing or prevent top wing options from popping for IU. It doesn’t prevent us from going after a top target. But you’re making the assumption we land a plug and play, top target for the perimeter. There’s a change we don’t land a top target and are taking flyers on guys. In that scenario the extra spot is valuable because the chances are lower any single one of them will work out. You’d rather have multiple bites at the apple. I don’t see why Banks can’t fill the 4th big minutes. He did some last year. So did Geronimo. MikeRoberts and CSP 1 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, str8baller said: It doesn’t prevent us from going after a top target. But you’re making the assumption we land a plug and play, top target for the perimeter. There’s a change we don’t land a top target and are taking flyers on guys. In that scenario the extra spot is valuable because the chances are lower any single one of them will work out. You’d rather have multiple bites at the apple. I don’t see why Banks can’t fill the 4th big minutes. He did some last year. So did Geronimo. Your point would be valid if we were in danger of filling all three remaining spots with depth players. We're clearly not. CSP, go iu bb, NVFalcons1990 and 2 others 4 1 Quote
str8baller Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: Your point would be valid if we were in danger of filling all three remaining spots with depth players. We're clearly not. What top players are you guaranteeing that we land? MikeRoberts 1 Quote
go iu bb Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Isn't this thread in the wrong forum? I'm not complaining since it's nice not having to switch between forums to read active threads but it seems like it should be in the recruiting forum. Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said: The staff has 3 that have been made public with more waiting in the wings. They will fill these last 2 spots with top talent. This is not a scramble. This has all been lined up but just now coming out and more will. trust them I'm anxious who is in "waiting" behind the three that have publicly been announced. Tom White 1 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 10 hours ago, JSHoosier said: Ugh, please no. Time to make sacrifices to the basketball gods to avoid this. I'd feel differently if he brought shooting or something this team actually needs, but he's not a scorer and has no business even thinking about taking a 3. He's a body to spell Reneau but he's not good. A move like this makes me think they put their eggs in the Ledlum/Knecht basket and are getting desperate. I don't see a down side with bring in Walker. He will be a backup 4 and is athletic which will help on the defensive end. Ngw7183, NVFalcons1990 and thebigweave 2 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said: It doesn’t have to go in order. They can walk and chew gum at same tine. So many will be eating crow. This staff has more talent than they can bring in lined up. Is that what you’ve learned from perusing their Instagram followers? We’ll see if you’re right this time. HoosierAloha, Tom White, CSP and 2 others 1 2 1 1 Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, Ngw7183 said: Some of those names have been floated. The problem is if they don’t come true people flip. But there are still guys that the staff knows very well could enter portal and they have to wait for that. Dingle was that. We knew and when he did, first call. there are NBA draft guys too that we have to see if they will come back. But this gives us lots of options now. will be exciting over the next few weeks sounds like. Ngw7183 1 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, str8baller said: It doesn’t prevent us from going after a top target. But you’re making the assumption we land a plug and play, top target for the perimeter. There’s a change we don’t land a top target and are taking flyers on guys. In that scenario the extra spot is valuable because the chances are lower any single one of them will work out. You’d rather have multiple bites at the apple. I don’t see why Banks can’t fill the 4th big minutes. He did some last year. So did Geronimo. I always thought with the last 3 spots we would go with 1 more big and 2 guard/wing players. Walker fit that so what would be the problem with him being a backup. Some act like we have 8 starting spots and everyone we sign will be a starter. We already have 3 starters on XJ, Reneau and Ware so all 3 scholarships won't be starters NVFalcons1990, thebigweave and Ngw7183 1 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said: Is that what you’ve learned from perusing their Instagram followers? We’ll see if you’re right this time. While it's your prerogative, there's really no need to be a smart @$$. Woody wants to win. Not someday; he wants to win and win at IU ... NOW. Getting a guy like Anthony Walker to basically replace Jordan Geronimo would be fantastic news, and an upgrade. Our other players to replace are Trayce, JHS, Race, and MillerK Xavier Sparks Ware A high level SG like Dennis or Dingle, and A shooter like Mgbako (not overly likely but certainly possible) Would do that and maybe even then some. No need for griping when "stay tuned, this could be getting good" is a more realistic take. go iu bb, NVFalcons1990, jonz44 and 4 others 6 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, str8baller said: What top players are you guaranteeing that we land? Guaranteeing? lol Are you saying if there's not a guarantee on a message board that we are landing players that, to your satisfaction, are top players you are losing faith in the staff to put together a strong roster? NVFalcons1990, thebigweave, Ngw7183 and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: While it's your prerogative, there's really no need to be a smart @$$. Woody wants to win. Not someday; he wants to win and win at IU ... NOW. Getting a guy like Anthony Walker to basically replace Jordan Geronimo would be fantastic news, and an upgrade. Our other players to replace are Trayce, JHS, Race, and MillerK Xavier Sparks Ware A high level SG like Dennis or Dingle, and A shooter like Mgbako (not overly likely but certainly possible) Would do that and maybe even then some. No need for griping when "stay tuned, this could be getting good" is a more realistic take. The guy has been going around troll-reacting to all of my posts for days now, so I finally made a smart-@$$ response to him. I’ve been staying tuned for the better part of a decade and my patience is running thin. Walker isn’t even my biggest problem. We have multiple guys on this roster who I see as 10 mpg max , end of rotation guys. I don’t feel good about Leal, Gunn, or Banks, and I don’t feel good about the two freshmen coming in and being contributors next year either. So, in light of that, adding another 10 mpg guy isn’t appealing to me. MikeRoberts, Tom White, HoosierAloha and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said: The guy has been going around troll-reacting to all of my posts for days now, so I finally made a smart-@$$ response to him. I’ve been staying tuned for the better part of a decade and my patience is running thin. Walker isn’t even my biggest problem. We have multiple guys on this roster who I see as 10 mpg max , end of rotation guys. I don’t feel good about Leal, Gunn, or Banks, and I don’t feel good about the two freshmen coming in and being contributors next year either. So, in light of that, adding another 10 mpg guy isn’t appealing to me. Completely fair, but also fair that you're not exactly an optimist. So Leal will be the 13th guy. If Walker, Banks, Gunn, and Newton are the 9-12th, we are a very very strong team. I would hope we can agree that having 10+ "starter quality" guys on a college basketball roster is a recipe for team discord. woodenshoemanHoosierfan, CSP, ALASKA HOOSIER and 3 others 5 1 Quote
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