coonhounds Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 He’s like many of us that enjoy IUBB and don’t want to come to here as much when the board rehashes the same negativity. Thats not to say it’s all unfounded; it’s just not enjoyable. Nothing is enjoyable when your losing. Look how fun the board was when Romeo committed and everyone was feeling good until we started playing basketball then not so much lol. Point is if our guys play like this nobody is going to enjoy anything iu basketball related Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 I was sooo ready for Crean to go but I gotta admit I wouldnt mind seeing one those games where we hit 15 threes and got a big win. 8bucks, Loaded Chicken Sandwich and KYHoosier 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: I was sooo ready for Crean to go but I gotta admit I wouldnt mind seeing one those games where we hit 15 threes and got a big win. Don’t miss Crean Would sure be nice to have a team that could occasionally score 85+ when hot. Class of '66 Old Fart and kreigh8 2 Quote
JSHoosier Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: I was sooo ready for Crean to go but I gotta admit I wouldnt mind seeing one those games where we hit 15 threes and got a big win. Obviously not games when we faced a zone. Quote
Stuhoo Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 ALASKA HOOSIER, jk34, Jeff_Boy_Ardee and 2 others 5 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 Failure to land good guards is gonna cost Archie his job. To date he has landed one good guard in Romeo and he was injured and had zero help. You arent gonna succeed without good guard play at this level. We still havent had a great guard at IU since Yogi. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Failure to land good guards is gonna cost Archie his job. To date he has landed one good guard in Romeo and he was injured and had zero help. You arent gonna succeed without good guard play at this level. We still havent had a great guard at IU since Yogi. You can win just fine with 3 and 4 star guards. They just have to develop and not look like Freshmen when they are juniors and seniors tortex28 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 [/url] All well and good. Chronic Hoosier is wrong. It’s just a matter of where people want to point their frustration. What does anyone expect to see on social media (which is an immediate reaction website) when a team people are absolutely passionate about is embarrassing themselves and losing on a very regular and predictable basis? If WE all decide to be casual/fair weather fans we can roll with the punches, but then we wouldn’t be Indiana. Common sense isn’t a strength these days. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: So what are fans supposed to do after watching the team screw the same basic things up for 4 years. And least the fanbase still cares to see it get better one day. Peoplr shrugging and saying no biggie isn’t going to help either. This is loser talk. Losers make excuses for why there’s a lack of success Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: All well and good. Chronic Hoosier is wrong. It’s just a matter of where people want to point their frustration. What does anyone expect to see on social media (which is an immediate reaction website) when a team people are absolutely passionate about is embarrassing themselves and losing on a very regular and predictable basis? If WE all decide to be casual/fair weather fans we can roll with the punches, but then we wouldn’t be Indiana. Common sense isn’t a strength these days. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app He’s dead wrong. Laughably wrong. I’m sick and tired of people always acting like IU fans are these ridiculously unreasonable fans. We’re the only fanbase that isn’t allowed to have expectations. We’ve made the tournament 4 times in the past 12 years. Show us a ‘blue blood’ fanbase that would be ok with that. Show us a ‘blue blood’ fanbase that wouldn’t lose their minds about that, Chronic Hoosier. That Twitter guy might get his wish, though. A couple more seasons like the last few and the fanbase simply won’t care anymore. Once that happens, we’re no different than Arkansas, Oklahoma, or any other random team out there. DChoosier and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 He’s dead wrong. Laughably wrong. I’m sick and tired of people always acting like IU fans are these ridiculously unreasonable fans. We’re the only fanbase that isn’t allowed to have expectations. We’ve made the tournament 4 times in the past 12 years. Show us a ‘blue blood’ fanbase that would be ok with that. Show us a ‘blue blood’ fanbase that wouldn’t lose their minds about that, Chronic Hoosier. That Twitter guy might get his wish, though. A couple more seasons like the last few and the fanbase simply won’t care anymore. Once that happens, we’re no different than Arkansas, Oklahoma, or any other random team out there. Yeah, it’s an odd state of affairs with Indiana fans. I guess we are entitled if we have expectations. It’s very strange how we “eat our own”. People gave Archie 3 years with very little noise. People were frustrated but the heat didn’t get put on Archie like it is now. Indiana fans are passionate. Give us a winning program and we’d be the best fanbase in the country. Give us a Losing program and we get grumpy. Pretty simple solution that makes sense. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 and Josh 2 Quote
Josh Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 It's weird to me that some IU fans can watch our program and get mad at the frustrated fans rather than the results on the court. Some people would rather see rainbows and puppy dogs than deal with reality. Dealing with reality is life. Refusing to accept reality is delusion It's time fellas. This ain't working. Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Yeah, it’s an odd state of affairs with Indiana fans. I guess we are entitled if we have expectations. It’s very strange how we “eat our own”. People gave Archie 3 years with very little noise. People were frustrated but the heat didn’t get put on Archie like it is now. Indiana fans are passionate. Give us a winning program and we’d be the best fanbase in the country. Give us a Losing program and we get grumpy. Pretty simple solution that makes sense. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app We’re really no different from any other fanbase, imho. We’ve been bad for most of the past 12 years. Social media has always became a huge part of the world during the past 12 years. Combine social media and an incredibly frustrated fanbase and this is what you get. Duke, Kansas, UK, etc. fans would be the same way if they were in our position. We just happen to be the program stuck in a rut for the last decade. But expecting to make the tournament more often than not makes us entitled, apparently. They get mad at fans for being passionate, but they’ll complain when fans lose the passion and stop watching too. Oh well. The losses hurt a lot less when you expect them beforehand. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 We’re really no different from any other fanbase, imho. We’ve been bad for most of the past 12 years. Social media has always became a huge part of the world during the past 12 years. Combine social media and an incredibly frustrated fanbase and this is what you get. Duke, Kansas, UK, etc. fans would be the same way if they were in our position. We just happen to be the program stuck in a rut for the last decade. But expecting to make the tournament more often than not makes us entitled, apparently. They get mad at fans for being passionate, but they’ll complain when fans lose the passion and stop watching too. Oh well. The losses hurt a lot less when you expect them beforehand. 100%Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app DChoosier and Hoosierfan2017 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 Archies literal only hope is to bench Hunter and Al. Give Geronimo and Lander more minutes. Suffer now to try and make noise next year. Begging TJD to stay Al and Phinisee are not good enough guards to be successful. Honestly why would you stay if you were TJD Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Josh said: It's weird to me that some IU fans can watch our program and get mad at the frustrated fans rather than the results on the court. Some people would rather see rainbows and puppy dogs than deal with reality. Dealing with reality is life. Refusing to accept reality is delusion It's time fellas. This ain't working. Fans can say “trust the process” and “be patient” all they want, but at some point we actually need to see some progress. It’s easier to pretend that everything is fine and dandy than it is to look in the mirror and be honest about the state of the program. There’s nothing special about IU basketball right now. We’re not a blue blood. We’re not even an above average Big 10 program at this point. We haven’t made it past the sweet 16 since 2002. We’ve made 4 tournaments in the last 12 years. We’re living entirely off our history at this point, and that history gets older and older each year. Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 Reading some other sites. Stewart is going to be the savior we need. This fanbase man. Capable of so much self delusion. In 50 years the few fans left will not even have a passing notion of what we once were Quote
Josh Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 One big problem with the pumpers telling me how to act is their attitudes for the last 4 years. We all know I've been a vocal critic of Archie since he was at Dayton. When Crean was fired, he came up as a candidate. I did not want him because I saw a bad offense and a poor coach. I was told by many many people that I was clueless on the subject and I simply didn't understand basketball. Fast forward 4 years of being told this, and they're still trying to tell me that they're right. Now they're trying to tell me how to post? Step away from your fantasy world pumpers. Accept reality. Some people learn slower than others, but they need to eventually learn. Archie isn't the coach to bring us where we want to be. Quote
Magnanimous Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 In the history of basketball, there has never been a good team that could not shoot. We have not been able to shoot for four years... Archie feels like he’s been an interim coach for four years. The guy hasn’t embraced being the face of our program at all. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Magnanimous said: In the history of basketball, there has never been a good team that could not shoot. We have not been able to shoot for four years... Archie feels like he’s been an interim coach for four years. The guy hasn’t embraced being the face of our program at all. You can’t be successful running a garbage system that doesn’t allow players to look good for the NBA. And you can’t win the big ten without recruiting players who have NBA aspirations. Crean couldn’t coach but he had what 4 NBA players on both his B10 winning teams. We have one maybe NBA player it looks like schoosier 1 Quote
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