Bracketology and Team Resumes

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

Chris Reynolds on cbssports talking about the bracket.    He will be committee chairman next year 

[RatpigHoosier 1,022]

Not ideal but I’m gonna be positive about this. We have the national stage all to ourselves for one game. Let’s go out and play loose and tough. Show the nation (and potential recruits) how the Hoosiers do it after the switch was flipped the second half of the Michigan game. Play an entertaining brand of ball, have fun while whooping up on Wyoming, then onward and upward. 

[LIHoosier 25,818]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Chris Reynolds on cbssports talking about the bracket.    He will be committee chairman next year 

CBS Sports Network? Just missed it. Did he answer anything about IU in particular? 

All I saw was Bowl Cut and someone appears to have stolen his bowl.

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

1 minute ago, LIHoosier said:

CBS Sports Network? Just missed it. Did he answer anything about IU in particular? 

All I saw was Bowl Cut and someone appears to have stolen his bowl.

IU wasn’t mentioned 

[coonhounds 8,787]

That’s what’s going to sink this whole ship, if they lose. Just like 2020 there’s always gonna be that asterisk. It may actually be worse than #1 NIT seed in that regard.

I know others don't agree with your take but they just have opinions like you do and nobody on this board has a perfect record of being right that I know of. My opinion is yes if we lose fan and program moral will take even bigger hit than nit. But if we win a few games a couple games here it is way better than playing in nit. Let's win and not worry about all the negatives that a loss on a big stage Tuesday could bring. It is unarguably better for iu financially though.

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[RatpigHoosier 1,022]

Seth Greensburg just picked us to beat Saint Mary’s. I don’t know how I feel about that. 

[RaceToTheTop 24,923]

48 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

That’s what’s going to sink this whole ship, if they lose. Just like 2020 there’s always gonna be that asterisk. It may actually be worse than #1 NIT seed in that regard.

Of all opinions to have, that's one of them I guess.

[str8baller 5,042]

14 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I know others don't agree with your take but they just have opinions like you do and nobody on this board has a perfect record of being right that I know of. My opinion is yes if we lose fan and program moral will take even bigger hit than nit. But if we win a few games a couple games here it is way better than playing in nit. Let's win and not worry about all the negatives that a loss on a big stage Tuesday could bring. It is unarguably better for iu financially though.

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I don’t like the play-in games either. But I disagree about the NIT. That’s just continued apathy, which is a killer. 
 

It’ll seem like a minor bump if we lose the play-in game, but it is a step in the right direction. You can sell being in the tourney to recruits easier than the NIT, too. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,182]

I admittedly have not watched a second of Wyoming. What can we expect? Stats wise, looks like their top 2 guys are Race/Trayce size with some shooters around them?

Number 0, Drake Jeffries, is a 3 point specialist. I watched him play about 5 times a year when he played for Mattoon High School about 30 minutes away. Watched him a few times at Wyoming. Shoots well, but average defensively.

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[HoosierAloha 30,024]

Seth Greensburg just picked us to beat Saint Mary’s. I don’t know how I feel about that. 

I think we have a pretty good chance in that one. Houston, UCONN, and Iowa are the other 5s. I’ll take St. Mary’s all day of those four.


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[RaceToTheTop 24,923]

While I didn't match USPS for accuracy, I wasn't really upset with how my selections fared.  Here is a comparison between our bracketmaster USPS, myself, and our favorite punching bag Joe Lunardi.  I'll do Palm later.

Number of at large bids picked correctly:

USPS:  34 of 36 (had Texas A&M and SMU in, Rutgers and Notre Dame out)

brumdog45:  34 of 36 (had Oklahoma and Texas A&M in, Rutgers and Notre Dame out)

Lunardi:  35 of 36 (had Texas A&M in, Wyoming out)

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Teams seeded in exact right seed:

USPS:  45

brumdog45:  30

Lunardi: 39

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Teams missed by more than one seed line:

USPS:  1 (Creighton)

brumdog45:  4 (TCU, Iowa St, Miami, Colgate)

Lunardi: 1 (Boise State)

Average number of seed lines off (correct being 0) for teams picked in the field:

USPS:  0.32

brumdog45:  0.58

Lunardi: 0.45

 

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

On 3/6/2022 at 10:21 PM, Uspshoosier said:

Basketball gods would do this site nice to have Wyoming play IU in the first 4.   That was a fun debate earlier in the year.  Although I really would rather IU not be in the first 4 since I will be going both days 

Bump from March 6.  Lol 

[IUc2016 7,121]

IU is up to 36 on Kenpom. Iowa handling Purdue helped with that. 
 

Wyoming is 58 fyi

[lillurk 3,738]

1 hour ago, FightFor6 said:

I admittedly have not watched a second of Wyoming. What can we expect? Stats wise, looks like their top 2 guys are Race/Trayce size with some shooters around them?

They’re a fun watch, I think. They don’t play fast, they’re about equally good on O and D. They don’t force TOs but their D is good at the other four factors (opponent shooting %, defensive rebounding, avoiding fouls). They’re good at 2s offensively, don’t hit the offensive glass much.

Best players: Hunter Maldonado is a good, tall, lead guard. Gets to the line a bunch. Graham Ike a pretty quick, slightly small 5, a la TJD; athletic but not as much as Trayce. Neither shoots the three much or well, they’re combined 22/89. Their next best guy, Drake Jeffries, is a 40% shooter on over 200 tries this year (and I think someone mentioned he played HSBB in IN).

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Just now, lillurk said:

They’re a fun watch, I think. They don’t play fast, they’re about equally good on O and D. They don’t force TOs but their D is good at the other four factors (opponent shooting %, defensive rebounding, avoiding fouls). They’re good at 2s offensively, don’t hit the offensive glass much.

Best players: Hunter Maldonado is a good, tall, lead guard. Gets to the line a bunch. Graham Ike a pretty quick, slightly small 5, a la TJD; athletic but not as much as Trayce. Neither shoots the three much or well, they’re combined 22/89. Their next best guy, Drake Jeffries, is a 40% shooter on over 200 tries this year (and I think someone mentioned he played HSBB in IN).

I think it’s a pretty good matchup for IU, tbh. Wyoming’s good, but TJD, Race, and Geronimo (if healthy) can guard Ike. They don’t really have a big wing/versatile 4-type that’s given IU trouble this year. Need X not to get into foul trouble vs. Maldonado, and for Rob and Trey not to send him to the line. Kopp and Stewart, for all their faults, are okay at chasing “just a shooter” types.

Offensively, I think IU’s bigs should do alright, and I like what I’ve seen from X lately. The swing issue is what they get from guys other than TJD, Race, X

[Demo 19,600]

4 minutes ago, lillurk said:

They’re a fun watch, I think. They don’t play fast, they’re about equally good on O and D. They don’t force TOs but their D is good at the other four factors (opponent shooting %, defensive rebounding, avoiding fouls). They’re good at 2s offensively, don’t hit the offensive glass much.

Best players: Hunter Maldonado is a good, tall, lead guard. Gets to the line a bunch. Graham Ike a pretty quick, slightly small 5, a la TJD; athletic but not as much as Trayce. Neither shoots the three much or well, they’re combined 22/89. Their next best guy, Drake Jeffries, is a 40% shooter on over 200 tries this year (and I think someone mentioned he played HSBB in IN).

You and USPS and probably several others around here have seen them more than I have. But, I would think Woody would go at Ike defensively right from the jump. His footwork isn’t great and I don’t think he can hold up against Trayce. Pretty decent chance you can put him on the bench in the 1st half. Maldonado is a different matchup. He’s not like Ivey or Davis or Branham where IU doesn’t have an athletic matchup for him. But, he’s clever as hell just backing guys down, finding angles or creating cheap contact. But I think you have matchups for him. In the couple of games I saw these guys were the whole show offensively. Boring as it is, I imagine it just comes down to shooting. If IU can make some looks I think they win it fairly comfortably. They go shoot 2-15 from 3 and it becomes a limited possession kind of game, I’d rather have Maldonado who can get a shot or a foul late in the clock. 

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2 hours ago, str8baller said:

I don’t like the play-in games either. But I disagree about the NIT. That’s just continued apathy, which is a killer. 
 

It’ll seem like a minor bump if we lose the play-in game, but it is a step in the right direction. You can sell being in the tourney to recruits easier than the NIT, too. 

We had a thread about whether we should accept an NIT bid if offered.  Now that we made the tournament, we have people complaining about us making the tournament because it's the first four.  Know how you know the NCAA bid is better?  Not a single thread on whether we should 'accept the first four invitation'.

There is no freaking 'asterisk' for making the first four.  The field has been at 68 teams for over a decade now.  Kids in college now pretty much always remember it being a thing.  And the history of the winner of the first four games is very good -- despite being 11 or 12 seeds going into round 1 where they match up with 5 and 6 seeds, the winners of first four games are 19-20 in games from the first round on.

[HoosierHoopster 6,795]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bump from March 6.  Lol 

Dear God talk about a jinx lol

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3 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yikes Rutgers was ahead of IU.    If IU lost to Illinois they were probably going to get left out.    

I love me some Andre Curbelo.

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2 hours ago, Demo said:

You and USPS and probably several others around here have seen them more than I have. But, I would think Woody would go at Ike defensively right from the jump. His footwork isn’t great and I don’t think he can hold up against Trayce. Pretty decent chance you can put him on the bench in the 1st half. Maldonado is a different matchup. He’s not like Ivey or Davis or Branham where IU doesn’t have an athletic matchup for him. But, he’s clever as hell just backing guys down, finding angles or creating cheap contact. But I think you have matchups for him. In the couple of games I saw these guys were the whole show offensively. Boring as it is, I imagine it just comes down to shooting. If IU can make some looks I think they win it fairly comfortably. They go shoot 2-15 from 3 and it becomes a limited possession kind of game, I’d rather have Maldonado who can get a shot or a foul late in the clock. 

We don't have a real good matchup for Maldanado, specifically if JG can't go.  My fear is Kopp on him.  Personally, I might consider Race on him to start the game.  Maldanado is going to beat him off the dribble but he's not a good shooter so Race can give him some space and count on his own length to help out should he get beaten off the dribble.  Galloway I would guess would also get the assignment occasionally but he'll be giving up three inches.

That said, they don't match up real well against two bigs instead of one like we have in Trayce and Race.  They are likely going to be giving up 30 pounds in the Race match on defense.