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Imo this is the type of player that will succeed in Archie’s system. Multi year player that has length and athleticism. He will create turnovers or he will get out on breaks. Probably not going to be a player that thrives in the half court at least for a couple of years. Excited about this one.


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8 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Imo this is the type of player that will succeed in Archie’s system. Multi year player that has length and athleticism. He will create turnovers or he will get out on breaks. Probably not going to be a player that thrives in the half court at least for a couple of years. Excited about this one.


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I would agree with this.  He looks like he can create more playing downhill.  In the half court, I can see him being that "junk" guy like TW.  Sweep in from the weak side.  We have lacked that weak side guy now for a couple years.

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Imo this is the type of player that will succeed in Archie’s system. Multi year player that has length and athleticism. He will create turnovers or he will get out on breaks. Probably not going to be a player that thrives in the half court at least for a couple of years. Excited about this one.


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Interesting take. I would have said this kid would thrive in a fast pace offense and a defense that is encouraged to gamble and cause counters like Crean’s teams.

Archie is quite the opposite and hope he can do things in spite of the system


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Interesting take. I would have said this kid would thrive in a fast pace offense and a defense that is encouraged to gamble and cause counters like Crean’s teams.

Archie is quite the opposite and hope he can do things in spite of the system


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I think the biggest problems we have is our inability to create turnover and shooting. Archie wants to get out and we have when we create turnovers. The length and athleticism this kid has if he plays with any level of effort will be huge imo.


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6 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:


Interesting take. I would have said this kid would thrive in a fast pace offense and a defense that is encouraged to gamble and cause counters like Crean’s teams.

Archie is quite the opposite and hope he can do things in spite of the system


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I agree partly on the system,  however his recruiting shows more of his vision than his resume at IU thus far. 

Rob, Hunter, Race, Lander, Geronimo,TJD etc. 

I believe those long scoring draughts are going to be in the rear view mirror. (hopefully) Nothing against Al and Justin,  but I don't believe Archie would have recruited them in a full recruiting cycle. 2way players and "want to" players is what he's looking for.

 

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I agree partly on the system,  however his recruiting shows more of his vision than his resume at IU thus far. 
Rob, Hunter, Race, Lander, Geronimo,TJD etc. 
I believe those long scoring draughts are going to be in the rear view mirror. (hopefully) Nothing against Al and Justin,  but I don't believe Archie would have recruited them in a full recruiting cycle. 2way players and "want to" players is what he's looking for.
 

Interesting that you don’t think he would have recruited them yet he plays them more than anyone else


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What have been his other options the past few years?

That’s kinda the point. More than half of the roster is of players he has recruited and chose to bring in yet the players that get the most run are the guys he inherited and would not recruit if he had the choice... something is wrong there

He has had the opportunity to bring in better talent whether it be from freshmen, juco, graduate transfer to take on the lions share of the minutes yet it’s the problem players and players “he got stuck with” that gets all the playing time.

There is the truth and that is that he has had a hard time recruiting upgrades and fulfilling needs. Case and point leaving two unfulfilled scholarships when we were in obvious need of shooters

I just hate people throwing Creans recruits under the bus and using them as scapegoats for Archie when he utilized them a ton


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1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:


That’s kinda the point. More than half of the roster is of players he has recruited and chose to bring in yet the players that get the most run are the guys he inherited and would not recruit if he had the choice... something is wrong there

He has had the opportunity to bring in better talent whether it be from freshmen, juco, graduate transfer to take on the lions share of the minutes yet it’s the problem players and players “he got stuck with” that gets all the playing time.

There is the truth and that is that he has had a hard time recruiting upgrades and fulfilling needs. Case and point leaving two unfulfilled scholarships when we were in obvious need of shooters

I just hate people throwing Creans recruits under the bus and using them as scapegoats for Archie when he utilized them a ton


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Never knocked Creans players. Most importantly, they were IU players! 3 of the 4 players he " inherited or wouldn't have recruited " were the healthiest players the past two years.

1-no tournament 

2- nit

3-ncaa

Not sure Archie is the answer, but if you don't see improvement, that's your view.

Any business would take that kind of growth in year 3.

 

 

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Interesting that you don’t think he would have recruited them yet he plays them more than anyone else


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This is funny. Archie has literally signed four players outside of Indiana in his first three classes 18,19, 20. All within the top 150, 3 in the top 100. 3 of the 4 in Big ten country. All other recruits have been from Indiana.

But yes in a normal class I’m sure he would have recruited the shooting guard from Georgia ranked below 230. Give me a break.


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Really good Q and A with Jordan from Inside The Hall 

https://www.insidethehall.com/2020/03/28/q-a-class-of-2020-st-pauls-school-forward-and-iu-signee-jordan-geronimo/?fbclid=IwAR3AFifar6AUFGXSEgTO1Y-wVEJPGMr2IVD8PIwyWmtp8y3aRDJIyzVL2QM

Couple of things of special note to me:

1.  Plans to be in Bloomington on June 8, coronavirus permitting.

2.  Geronimo averaged 18 points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and two blocks per game this past season

3 ... Me, as a player, I wanted to get my teammates going. I’m a team-first kind of guy. Throughout the season, I realized I needed to be more aggressive and more assertive with the ball in my hands. Before I realized that, it was kind of too late.  [I think I made that observation somewhere in his thread that he was clearly their best player and needed to take charge]

 

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