2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,222]

Absolutely. I am probably on the more optimistic side when it comes to IU players and he is honestly one of the worst shooters I can recall. Comparing him to NBA players and their shooting ability is crazy to me. I would be happy if he just went to the rim strong. I think he has that ability to get around 10 ppg doing that. But a shooter? Nah. Not even a discussion.
 
 
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Andre Iguodala isn’t a shooter or anything close to it. He’s actually horrid like Smith. But at one point he was about Smith’s size, super athletic and one heck of a defensive player. Something Smith could easily turn into.


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[mdn82 26,344]

Andre Iguodala isn’t a shooter or anything close to it. He’s actually horrid like Smith. But at one point he was about Smith’s size, super athletic and one heck of a defensive player. Something Smith could easily turn into.

 

 

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Yeah great comparison. In college Andre led Arizona as a sophomore in rebounds (8.4) assists (4.9), and steals (1.6) while scoring over 12 ppg. For being an awful shooter he shot 31.5% from 3. Oh and Andre put up that percentage while shooting about 3x as many 3’s his sophomore season. You know what Smith did as a Sophomore? He had 65 turnovers to 28 assists. 7.2 rebounds per 40 minutes. Great comparison.

 

Edit: “Not a great shooter” would be an upgrade.

 

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,650]

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Indiana-basketball-Hoosiers-add-three-walk-ons-to-2019-20-roster-136089281/

 

Added 3 walk ons

 

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,222]

Yeah great comparison. In college Andre led Arizona as a sophomore in rebounds (8.4) assists (4.9), and steals (1.6) while scoring over 12 ppg. For being an awful shooter he shot 31.5% from 3. Oh and Andre put up that percentage while shooting about 3x as many 3’s his sophomore season. You know what Smith did as a Sophomore? He had 65 turnovers to 28 assists. 7.2 rebounds per 40 minutes. Great comparison.
 
Edit: “Not a great shooter” would be an upgrade.
 
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I think Smith could be a more athletic 35 year old Iguodala. Who looked rough last season.


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[8bucks 7,468]

You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence.

I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %
Freshman 24%
Sophomore 23%
Junior 31%
Senior 47%

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.html


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,222]

You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence.

I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %
Freshman 24%
Sophomore 23%
Junior 31%
Senior 47%

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.html


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I’d take a Smith shooting 31% from 3.


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[HoosierDYT 1,766]

You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence.

 

I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %

Freshman 24%

Sophomore 23%

Junior 31%

Senior 47%

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.html

 

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I don’t see Smith following this trajectory, but Damezi Anderson? Sure. He was a great shooter in high school and AAU, he’s bound to get better

 

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[Hardwood83 4,986]

14 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

To tell Smith to go work on mid range instead of 3pt shots will only hurt Smith in the long run. And I’m sure a big part of the feedback he got from NBA guys was getting a 3pt shot which helps IU and helps Smith long term. Mid range nowadays is really only used by iso scorers and the popping big man in the pick and pop game.


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I get what you are saying and I think you are absolutely correct, if looking at it from a Smith "I want to play in the NBA" perspective. Unfortunately we both know there is a vanishingly small chance of Justin ever playing a minute in the NBA. He is a passive tweener with terrible hands and below average skills. Besides, I'm only interested in IU winning, not NBA wish lists. Those two don't have to be mutually exclusive....but they seem to be in reality.  If the NBA is telling kids not to worry about hitting jump shots in favor of all 3's, all the time, then the NBA is broken and should be ignored. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,222]

I get what you are saying and I think you are absolutely correct, if looking at it from a Smith "I want to play in the NBA" perspective. Unfortunately we both know there is a vanishingly small chance of Justin ever playing a minute in the NBA. He is a passive tweener with terrible hands and below average skills. Besides, I'm only interested in IU winning, not NBA wish lists. Those two don't have to be mutually exclusive....but they seem to be in reality.  If the NBA is telling kids not to worry about hitting jump shots in favor of all 3's, all the time, then the NBA is broken and should be ignored. 

If he’s worked his butt off and starts knocking down 3’s at 30%+, then it’s a success. NBA teams don’t care about players shooting mid range. If you can hit it, then you can hit it. A guy like Smith, they want to be able to hit from the corner. A 3 and D guy they can put in the corner so he can slash and get a lob or hit a corner 3. OKC did it a lot with Jerami Grant.


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[mdn82 26,344]

He’s not a pure shooter. But his form looks good. I bet he shoots 30% from 3 this season.


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I will take that bet. What’s the terms. Without even knowing I accept.


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[Stromboli 6,200]

30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. 

 

I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. 

 

 

https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,956]

30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. 
 
I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. 
 
 
https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/
 

Yes yes yes.


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[mdn82 26,344]

30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. 
 
I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. 
 
 
https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/
 

This all day long.


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[cchuntsman 197]

4 hours ago, Stromboli said:

30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. 

 

I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. 

 

 

https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/

 

Do these things have to be mutually exclusive?  Why can’t he focus this offseason on getting better at shooting and still be the hustle/junkyard dog player you want?   No one is saying he should give up those things and focus on being just a shooter.  

[mdn82 26,344]

Do these things have to be mutually exclusive?  Why can’t he focus this offseason on getting better at shooting and still be the hustle/junkyard dog player you want?   No one is saying he should give up those things and focus on being just a shooter.  

Maybe he should work on his free throw shooting before mastering the 3 🤷🏿‍♂️.


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[cchuntsman 197]

3 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Maybe he should work on his free throw shooting before mastering the 3 .


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I have no problem with that.  Haha!  But again, why not both?

[ap2345 11,254]

I have no problem with that.  Haha!  But again, why not both?

Because that makes to much sense.


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[jk34 1,105]

Rick Mount told me he has helped  turned many young players into better shooters. Give them the proper tools,  and then it's all just repetition. It's up to the player to commit to putting in the reps.

[coonhounds 10,496]

Rick Mount told me he has helped  turned many young players into better shooters. Give them the proper tools,  and then it's all just repetition. It's up to the player to commit to putting in the reps.

Rick mount came to basketball camp when I was a kid at taylor university. I didn't care what he had to say cause he went to purdue lol. I should have listened to every word he said lol.

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[jk34 1,105]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Rick mount came to basketball camp when I was a kid at taylor university. I didn't care what he had to say cause he went to purdue lol. I should have listened to every word he said lol.

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Agree about the PU. I had to grow up around Rick and the Walker boys. Schilling and I used to play Rick and Brian 2 on 2  in the summer's. Mount was unguardable.