Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 Yeah great comparison. In college Andre led Arizona as a sophomore in rebounds (8.4) assists (4.9), and steals (1.6) while scoring over 12 ppg. For being an awful shooter he shot 31.5% from 3. Oh and Andre put up that percentage while shooting about 3x as many 3’s his sophomore season. You know what Smith did as a Sophomore? He had 65 turnovers to 28 assists. 7.2 rebounds per 40 minutes. Great comparison. Edit: “Not a great shooter” would be an upgrade. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI think Smith could be a more athletic 35 year old Iguodala. Who looked rough last season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
8bucks Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence. I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %Freshman 24%Sophomore 23%Junior 31%Senior 47%https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.htmlSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners HoosierDYT, cchuntsman and HoosierHoops1 3 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence. I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %Freshman 24%Sophomore 23%Junior 31%Senior 47%https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.htmlSent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI’d take a Smith shooting 31% from 3. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierDYT Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 You can’t rule smith out as a shooter but he needs to work on it and find a good mechanics, rhythm and confidence. I just looked up Dane Fife’s 3 pt %Freshman 24%Sophomore 23%Junior 31%Senior 47% https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dane-fife-1.html Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners I don’t see Smith following this trajectory, but Damezi Anderson? Sure. He was a great shooter in high school and AAU, he’s bound to get better Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 I get what you are saying and I think you are absolutely correct, if looking at it from a Smith "I want to play in the NBA" perspective. Unfortunately we both know there is a vanishingly small chance of Justin ever playing a minute in the NBA. He is a passive tweener with terrible hands and below average skills. Besides, I'm only interested in IU winning, not NBA wish lists. Those two don't have to be mutually exclusive....but they seem to be in reality. If the NBA is telling kids not to worry about hitting jump shots in favor of all 3's, all the time, then the NBA is broken and should be ignored. If he’s worked his butt off and starts knocking down 3’s at 30%+, then it’s a success. NBA teams don’t care about players shooting mid range. If you can hit it, then you can hit it. A guy like Smith, they want to be able to hit from the corner. A 3 and D guy they can put in the corner so he can slash and get a lob or hit a corner 3. OKC did it a lot with Jerami Grant. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app 8bucks 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 He’s not a pure shooter. But his form looks good. I bet he shoots 30% from 3 this season.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI will take that bet. What’s the terms. Without even knowing I accept.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Popular Post Stromboli Posted September 26, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 26, 2019 30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/ JaybobHoosier, MoyeNeeded, Class of '66 Old Fart and 11 others 14 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/ Yes yes yes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/ This all day long.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
cchuntsman Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Stromboli said: 30% from 3 is losing basketball. At that rate don't guard him. Same with 40% from a long 2. This anecdotal junk completely ignores the trends and patterns that increase scoring efficiency, which helps IU reach this NCAA tournament fantasy. I've posted it before, but there's an article by ITH showing how Holtmann just left Smith unguarded, and it worked like a charm. This is not Justin's audition for the NBA. He needs to focus on rebounds, dump-offs, putbacks, and defense. He can get 12+ points a game like this, and help the team. Indiana fans aren't dopes. If he recreates himself like this and gives us some highlight dunks and jaw-dropping blocks, he'll be a fan favorite. https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/12/film-session-ohio-state-6/ Do these things have to be mutually exclusive? Why can’t he focus this offseason on getting better at shooting and still be the hustle/junkyard dog player you want? No one is saying he should give up those things and focus on being just a shooter. lillurk 1 Quote
Popular Post mdn82 Posted September 26, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 26, 2019 Do these things have to be mutually exclusive? Why can’t he focus this offseason on getting better at shooting and still be the hustle/junkyard dog player you want? No one is saying he should give up those things and focus on being just a shooter. Maybe he should work on his free throw shooting before mastering the 3 🤷🏿♂️.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app WayneFleekHoosier, Crimson and Cream, mamasa and 7 others 9 1 Quote
cchuntsman Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, mdn82 said: Maybe he should work on his free throw shooting before mastering the 3 . Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I have no problem with that. Haha! But again, why not both? Quote
ap2345 Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 I have no problem with that. Haha! But again, why not both?Because that makes to much sense.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app lillurk 1 Quote
jk34 Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 Rick Mount told me he has helped turned many young players into better shooters. Give them the proper tools, and then it's all just repetition. It's up to the player to commit to putting in the reps. coonhounds 1 Quote
coonhounds Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Rick Mount told me he has helped turned many young players into better shooters. Give them the proper tools, and then it's all just repetition. It's up to the player to commit to putting in the reps.Rick mount came to basketball camp when I was a kid at taylor university. I didn't care what he had to say cause he went to purdue lol. I should have listened to every word he said lol.Sent from my SM-G960U using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave, RatpigHoosier, IUsafety and 2 others 4 1 Quote
jk34 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, coonhounds said: Rick mount came to basketball camp when I was a kid at taylor university. I didn't care what he had to say cause he went to purdue lol. I should have listened to every word he said lol. Sent from my SM-G960U using BtownBanners mobile app Agree about the PU. I had to grow up around Rick and the Walker boys. Schilling and I used to play Rick and Brian 2 on 2 in the summer's. Mount was unguardable. Ranger78, cthomas and coonhounds 3 Quote
SlamaJamaSisley Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 HoosierAloha, ElectricBoogaloo, JaybobHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 30, 2019 No idea how to truly interpret this or what the measuring stick was. A freshman getting this award over upperclassmen??? Indiana Basketball @IndianaMBB Effort. Attitude. thebigweave, Alford Bailey, JaybobHoosier and 6 others 9 Quote
ElectricBoogaloo Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: No idea how to truly interpret this or what the measuring stick was. A freshman getting this award over upperclassmen??? Indiana Basketball @IndianaMBB Effort. Attitude. If you follow some of the other IU bball posts, Armaan was the winner or co-winner of a bunch of the workout challenges. JaybobHoosier, Class of '66 Old Fart, lillurk and 4 others 6 1 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: No idea how to truly interpret this or what the measuring stick was. A freshman getting this award over upperclassmen??? Indiana Basketball @IndianaMBB Effort. Attitude. I like it. The upperclassmen are known quantities. The future looks bright. ALASKA HOOSIER, lillurk and JaybobHoosier 3 Quote
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