IUBB @ Michigan - 1/6/19 @ 4:30 ET

[Old Friend]

14 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

It’s the 8th game in a row we started slowly but you should not bring it up as many posters are disappointed to read such negative comments.  Instead, please note how nice our uniforms look in HD and that Tom Garls tie makes his eyes shimmer.

Truth hurts.  Our offense is bad early in games.  There's no other way to say that.  Our offense is generally kinda' stagnant for stretches in most games, and Archie isn't recruiting shooters.   That baffles me because that's his missing piece.

The rest is just funny.  

[schoosier]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

This game was about coaching, in game adjustments, and personnel management. 

Coach really sacked it up putting both Romeo and Juwan back in the game. It was the right call with limited options. The injuries cost us any chance of legitimately winning the game. We need both Rob and Deron back ASAP. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Archie sucks!

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Lol

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I'm as critical as anyone but here are the bullet points:
 
- Go into game without Davis or Phinisee (not to mention Thompson, Forrester or Hunter)
- Best 2 players with 2 fouls each before the 1st media timeout
- Down double digits early and close to being blown out
- Playing in the #2 ranked team's gym
- Lose by 11 and actually win the 2nd half
- I'm ok with this but need to get Rob back for Maryland
 
P.S. only 5 turnovers I believe
 
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Exactly this

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[RaceToTheTop]

4 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Truth hurts.  Our offense is bad early in games.  There's no other way to say that.  Our offense is generally kinda' stagnant for stretches in most games, and Archie isn't recruiting shooters.   That baffles me because that's his missing piece.

The rest is just funny.  

Jerome Hunter, Damezi Anderson, and Robert Phinissee are all good shooters.  One is hurt and out for the season, one is shooting 45% from the three but is on concussion protocol, and the third is having problems getting on the court because of reasons other than his ability to shoot.  I'm not sure where the 'Archie isn't recruiting shooters' is coming from.  And I'd say Durham's leap in his perimeter game has been incredible.  

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Archie isn't recruiting shooters.   That baffles me because that's his missing piece.

I was thinking about that earlier today.

Thrilled to get TJD.  Will be very happy if we get KB but that being said we really, really need to also add a shooter.  It would be hard to overstate how much better TJD, KB and Smith, and our entire offense, could be if we had a legit perimeter threat.

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, DChoosier said:

I was thinking about that earlier today.

Thrilled to get TJD.  Will be very happy if we get KB but that being said we really, really need to also add a shooter.  It would be hard to overstate how much better TJD, KB and Smith, and our entire offense, could be if we had a legit perimeter threat.

Jerome is supposed to be a shooter to be fair

[DChoosier]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Jerome is supposed to be a shooter to be fair

Good point. Hope he comes back and is able to do that next year.

[Old Friend]

4 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Jerome Hunter, Damezi Anderson, and Robert Phinissee are all good shooters.  One is hurt and out for the season, one is shooting 45% from the three but is on concussion protocol, and the third is having problems getting on the court because of reasons other than his ability to shoot.  I'm not sure where the 'Archie isn't recruiting shooters' is coming from.  And I'd say Durham's leap in his perimeter game has been incredible.  

I don't think he recruited Hunter to be a shooter.  Damezi is fine against Jacksonville.  There's a reason he didn't play against Michigan.  He's not the answer.....   Phinisee is a point guard.   He's not the answer, either.  Those guys can all shoot, but they aren't the shooters this offense needs.  Neither is Morgan, for example.  He can make the shot, but he's not someone for whom a defense has to account or game plan against out there.  I'm not talking about guys who will make 25 three-pointers in a season. I'm talking about players who can make 70.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

It’s the 8th game in a row we started slowly but you should not bring it up as many posters are disappointed to read such negative comments.  Instead, please note how nice our uniforms look in HD and that Tim Garls tie makes his eyes shimmer.

It's not negative comments I'm offended by. Heck, I yell at the TV when I see bone headed plays. My problem is there are some posters that post negative comments rarely if ever, will post anything when the players make a good plays.

 

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[Bobman1]

If you told me before the game that we’d have only seven turnovers, outrebound Michigan, and Devonte would have 0 turnovers I’d say we’d leave Ann Arbor with a victory. We were without our critical starting point guard, our biggest guy and an offensive threat down low, and the two best players dealt with foul trouble from the beginning, and we still outscored them for 30 minutes.

The loss obviously sucks and there are certainly areas of need for this team but at full strength (with Rob and DD back) this team should compete til the very end over a top 4 Big Ten finish.


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[Stuhoo]

Down five scholly players on the road against a very good team. At UM is quite literally the toughest game on the conference schedule.

Not the worst loss.

BTW; Romeo is rapidly improving. He’s the three point shooter that’s starting to arrive. The other three point shooter that this team needs? DGreen, who will be playing alongside Rob plenty.

We good.

 

[Brass Cannon]

39 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

I don't think he recruited Hunter to be a shooter.  Damezi is fine against Jacksonville.  There's a reason he didn't play against Michigan.  He's not the answer.....   Phinisee is a point guard.   He's not the answer, either.  Those guys can all shoot, but they aren't the shooters this offense needs.  Neither is Morgan, for example.  He can make the shot, but he's not someone for whom a defense has to account or game plan against out there.  I'm not talking about guys who will make 25 three-pointers in a season. I'm talking about players who can make 70.

He didn’t recruit a great shooter to be a shooter?  Hmm if so maybe Archie ain’t the guy. 

And Rob being a PG has what to do with it?  Having Yogi as our primary shooter worked pretty well in 2016. 

[HoosierDYT]

I think we’ve grown from this game.

Not a bad loss imo


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[Brass Cannon]

Just now, HoosierDYT said:

I think we’ve grown from this game.

Not a bad loss imo


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If this is finally the wake up call to stop coming out flat totally worth the frustration. 

[Dhop]

Outside shooting has become such a detriment to this team. Hard to keep a defense honest and not packing it in if we can't knock down anything from outside. We have got to look for a shooter to come in next year even if it means letting someone know that there may be no PT available for them going forward beyond this season. I hate seeing this done, but we can't wait until the 20'21 class to find someone.

I think all concerned thought they were getting another Nick Z this year in a grad.
Unfortunately that has not worked out so well.


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[Bowhunter]

I think all concerned thought they were getting another Nick Z this year in a grad.
Unfortunately that has not worked out so well.


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In the college game I’m not all that high on recruiting bigs like Fitzner to shoot 3s. I like my 7 footers banging inside and getting the rebound. Give me a guard like Z any day of the week. Archie obviously recruited Anderson to shoot but unfortunately he is not good at defense. At least not yet.


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[Old Friend]

55 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

He didn’t recruit a great shooter to be a shooter?  Hmm if so maybe Archie ain’t the guy. 

And Rob being a PG has what to do with it?  Having Yogi as our primary shooter worked pretty well in 2016. 

Truth serum :  Did you post this with your brain or just to be critical of me again?

Because this is idiotic.  Sorry...it is.  You really believe a 6'7" 215 guy who had over 720 rebounds in high school is going to be used as (and was recruited to be) a shooter?  And how in the world do you know - seriously - that he is a "great" shooter?  Says who?  Did you exercise even an ounce of reason in this post?

Here is a line pulled directly from one of his recruiting pages :  "A powerful front court player who has the ability to score around the rim.  He can slash and on occasion step out to hit the 3 point shot."   What about that description, or ANYthing you know (your eyes work, right?) about Archie's offense tells you Hunter will be the shooter we're missing?   Come on, man.  I know you don't like me and I couldn't care less, but use your brain before you post trash like this.   Great shooter??   Wow.

Yogi was a "shooter?"  That's what you believe?    Is that why he shot 30% from the 3 point line as a freshman?  Yes...he became a shooter, but you seriously can't be dumb enough to believe that was his primary role, even as a senior.  His job for the first 3 years he was at Indiana was to run the offense, and yeah, he was a scorer (Morgan is a scorer....Romeo is a scorer.  They are not shooters.  There is a difference and you are now intertwining the two roles to make whatever point you're tying to make), but he MADE himself a shooter.  He could make the three pretty consistently by the time he was a senior; but he was not brought to Indiana to be a shooter.  At least not in the context of this discussion.   You can nit pick it all you want, and your condescending tone is once again completely devoid of reason.    

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Truth serum :  Did you post this with your brain or just to be critical of me again?

Because this is idiotic.  Sorry...it is.  You really believe a 6'7" 215 guy who had over 720 rebounds in high school is going to be used as (and was recruited to be) a shooter?  And how in the world do you know - seriously - that he is a "great" shooter?  Says who?  Did you exercise even an ounce of reason in this post?

Here is a line pulled directly from one of his recruiting pages :  "A powerful front court player who has the ability to score around the rim.  He can slash and on occasion step out to hit the 3 point shot."   What about that description, or ANYthing you know (your eyes work, right?) about Archie's offense tells you Hunter will be the shooter we're missing?   Come on, man.  I know you don't like me and I couldn't care less, but use your brain before you post trash like this.   Great shooter??   Wow.

Yogi was a "shooter?"  That's what you believe?    Is that why he shot 30% from the 3 point line as a freshman?  Yes...he became a shooter, but you seriously can't be dumb enough to believe that was his primary role, even as a senior.  His job for the first 3 years he was at Indiana was to run the offense, and yeah, he was a scorer (Morgan is a scorer....Romeo is a scorer.  They are not shooters.  There is a difference and you are now intertwining the two roles to make whatever point you're tying to make), but he MADE himself a shooter.  He could make the three pretty consistently by the time he was a senior; but he was not brought to Indiana to be a shooter.  At least not in the context of this discussion.   You can nit pick it all you want, and your condescending tone is once again completely devoid of reason.    

You have a tendency to say foolish things then get pissy when people call you out. Then respond in childish ways. Like listing freshmen year stats after somebody references a players senior year role. 

And despite 3 point shooting being a known strength this is a quote from Archie 

 He’s a much better three-point shooter than I ever imagined he would be coming in. -Archie Miller. 

 

I never said Yogi was brought to Indiana a shooter  seems the only things you can ever be right about are the things you make up and put in other peoples mouths  

 

[Old Friend]

38 minutes ago, Dhop said:

I think all concerned thought they were getting another Nick Z this year in a grad.
Unfortunately that has not worked out so well.


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Are you referring to Fitzner?  Guy averaged 4 points a game at St. Mary's. I don't think expectations were that high.