(2020) SG Anthony Leal to IU

[Honkyman]

Most parents value education over sports.

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Most parents value education over sports.

True but not all or else Kentucky and UNC wouldn’t be able to field a team. 

[Honkyman]

North Carolina is an excellent school. US News & World Report ranks UNC 30th academically among universities, well above IU (89th). Kentucky is ranked farther down (147).

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

North Carolina is an excellent school. US News & World Report ranks UNC 30th academically among universities, well above IU (89th). Kentucky is ranked farther down (147).

Regardless of their ranking the athletes are separated from the academics. Intentionally 

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

North Carolina is an excellent school. US News & World Report ranks UNC 30th academically among universities, well above IU (89th). Kentucky is ranked farther down (147).

I don't think anyone is doubting that their real classes are high quality, just with UNC it's no guarantee the class is real to begin with.

[RaceToTheTop]

4 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

You don’t choose Stanford because basketball is the priority. 

You are allowed to have more than one priority.  It's not like he narrowed it down to Northwestern and Stanford.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

You are allowed to have more than one priority.  It's not like he narrowed it down to Northwestern and Stanford.

That was a hypothetical. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

That was a hypothetical. 

Understood.  I just think that fan bases tend to assume that there is a there is one priority that makes a player decide.  There are a multiple of weighted ones.  Education, fit with the team, coaches, distance from home, weather, family's influence, etc.  Everything gets weighted at different levels depending on the player.

[Bowhunter]

I said this over on the other site. Leal can come to IU for 4 years and then his 5th year be a grad transfer to Stanford and everyone is happy.[emoji6]

 

 

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[bigrod]

9 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

I said this over on the other site. Leal can come to IU for 4 years and then his 5th year be a grad transfer to Stanford and everyone is happy.

 

 

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Sounds good, but he has to redshirt for that to work.

[Uspshoosier]

Just for some reference here are some recruits that have had Stanford offers and have went elsewhere since 2016 according to 247

2016- frank Jackson, Cassius Winston, tony Carr, josh Langford, jaqurio McLaughlin, Jordan Harris, jonathon Isaac, deshawn Corprew, Javin DeLaurier, Omari spellman, jayce Johnson

2017- Collin Sexton, trae young, Alex Barcello, Saben lee, brad Davison, jace Febres, Andrew platak, Michael Porter, Musa jallow, Justin Smith, Branden Carlson, Jamir Harris

2018- Andrew Nembhard, Jaelin Llewellyn(went to Princeton), Brenden Adams, Jules Bernard, Nassir Little, Jairus Hamilton, 0mar thielemans, J’Raan Brooks

2019- Nico Mannion, Jalen cone, Scottie Lewis, Josh Green, Christian Brown, Jamie Jaquez, franz Wagner, Majok Deng, Isaiah Mobley, Isaiah Ihnen, Dylan Disu, onyeka okongwu, armondo bacot, will Baker, kai Jones, Aidan Igiehon , Isaac Johnson, tyrese maxey, Josiah-Jordan James


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[Stuhoo]

16 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Just for some reference here are some recruits that have had Stanford offers and have went elsewhere since 2016 according to 247

2016- frank Jackson, Cassius Winston, tony Carr, josh Langford, jaqurio McLaughlin, Jordan Harris, jonathon Isaac, deshawn Corprew, Javin DeLaurier, Omari spellman, jayce Johnson

2017- Collin Sexton, trae young, Alex Barcello, Saben lee, brad Davison, jace Febres, Andrew platak, Michael Porter, Musa jallow, Justin Smith, Branden Carlson, Jamir Harris

2018- Andrew Nembhard, Jaelin Llewellyn(went to Princeton), Brenden Adams, Jules Bernard, Nassir Little, Jairus Hamilton, 0mar thielemans, J’Raan Brooks

2019- Nico Mannion, Jalen cone, Scottie Lewis, Josh Green, Christian Brown, Jamie Jaquez, franz Wagner, Majok Deng, Isaiah Mobley, Isaiah Ihnen, Dylan Disu, onyeka okongwu, armondo bacot, will Baker, kai Jones, Aidan Igiehon , Isaac Johnson, tyrese maxey, Josiah-Jordan James


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Yes, but how many of those had Stanford in their final two?

That being said, I'm optimistic that Anthony Leal will be a Hoosier. It just makes too much sense, and smart people with time to think usually end up making the choice that makes the most sense.

 

 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Which I will never understand. Overrated IMO

 

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Palo Alto and Northern California are amazing. If you’re calling it overrated and also implying that maybe Indiana is better... that’s quite the take.

 

 

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[Uspshoosier]

 
Yes, but how many of those had Stanford in their final two?
That being said, I'm optimistic that Anthony Leal will be a Hoosier. It just makes too much sense, and smart people with time to think usually end up making the choice that makes the most sense.
 
 

Not sure how many had them in their final 2 but was just pointing out that in the last 4 recruiting cycles over 50 kids who had offers to play at Stanford went to another school. I’ve seen on here and other places that it would be hard for Leal to turn down a Stanford offer. Other top rated kids do it every year. Like you said I personally do not see him going anywhere but IU unless he doesn’t feel wanted


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[Alford Bailey]

2 distinct opportunities and we have no idea what the Leal family values most. I wouldnt blame him either way.

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not sure how many had them in their final 2 but was just pointing out that in the last 4 recruiting cycles over 50 kids who had offers to play at Stanford went to another school. I’ve seen on here and other places that it would be hard for Leal to turn down a Stanford offer. Other top rated kids do it every year. Like you said I personally do not see him going anywhere but IU unless he doesn’t feel wanted


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Completely agree.

The "Stanford is irresistible" mantra, IMO is largely based on well-meaning IU fans who are verbalizing the need to not count chickens before they hatch. For a top 100 player from the Midwest? If academics were the overwhelming priority, I'd think NW or UM would be in there too. 

 

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

32 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Palo Alto and Northern California are amazing. If you’re calling it overrated and also implying that maybe Indiana is better... that’s quite the take.

 

 

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I've been to Palo Alto once.  While the Stanford campus was nice, I never once thought "man, I wish I lived here".   You're overselling it IMO but opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one. lol

[ElectricBoogaloo]

23 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not sure how many had them in their final 2 but was just pointing out that in the last 4 recruiting cycles over 50 kids who had offers to play at Stanford went to another school. I’ve seen on here and other places that it would be hard for Leal to turn down a Stanford offer. Other top rated kids do it every year. Like you said I personally do not see him going anywhere but IU unless he doesn’t feel wanted


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We could do this same exercise with Indiana during the Crean years and it would look about twice as bad (if not worse). I don't think the number of kids who have turned down a school over the last few recruiting cycles has an iota of predictive value when discussing an individual athlete who has shown serious interest.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

So just for fun.  From my records, we had 16 offers to the '18 class that chose to go elsewhere and we had 23 offers to the '19 class that chose to go elsewhere.  Unfortunately, I don't have any data for the '17 class.

We still have 15 open offers for the '20 class but we're already pretty certain a number of them are going elsewhere:  Burnett, I. Jackson, Clarke to name a few.

 

[MoyeNeeded]

2 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

He was just on Matt Denison’s show. What an impressive kid. He’s just a great all around person. I really want this guy on the team.


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Didn't sound like the education factor was instrumental in Stanford being in his final two. More of a loyalty thing for being the early offer.