Post Game Discussion : Duke 91 Indiana 81

[JSHoosier 21,897]

Only 9 turnovers, and none in the first 15 minutes.  That's a refreshing change of pace.

That's what you want in a blue blood match-up, two heavyweights trading punches.  IU needs post depth in a bad way though.

[JSHoosier 21,897]

3 minutes ago, Sota Hoosier said:

We are currently #219 on defense. Despite the improvements on defense (which there have been), there is a long way to go on D. Duke can beat you in so many ways it's almost not fair but I thought we had solid stretches of good defense last night.

If you look at the box score, the overall stats are very similar between the two teams. We just missed free throws and couldn't convert on a couple threes.

Very proud of how the guys competed and how well Archie had them prepared. How would a Crean team perform while only going 5/21 from three??? I think there is a lot this team can accomplish this season and I'm excited to see how they progress.

If a Crean team went 5/21 from 3 against that Duke team, they'd have been down 30.

[JustWinWoody 3,405]

I haven't read through the entire thread so sorry if this has already been shared here but I love the Above the Rim replay of the game.  Fans were as expected, incredible!  http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3230175   (headphones recommended)

[mark1981 1,398]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Some girl was "dancing" behind Bilas as he talked to Scott Van Pelt after the game.

What happened?


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[Sota Hoosier 450]

29 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

If a Crean team went 5/21 from 3 against that Duke team, they'd have been down 30.

Exactly. It's scary to even think about what would have happened.

[323SGrant 1,176]

Exactly. It's scary to even think about what would have happened.

This may have been previously mentioned, but I thought Moore would provide more by this point in the season.


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[Stromboli 6,149]

7 minutes ago, 323SGrant said:

This may have been previously mentioned, but I thought Moore would provide more by this point in the season.


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Clifton Less

[Old Friend 8,582]

10 minutes ago, 323SGrant said:

This may have been previously mentioned, but I thought Moore would provide more by this point in the season.


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He was a project and one of those guys Crean found he probably felt was a diamond in the rough and out-thought the room.  Clifton Moore was not highly regarded for many reasons, but one is he's just not ready.   He's thin, he's not strong with the ball; and frankly, he's not all that talented.  A 6'10" kid who's better on the perimeter.  We saw last night how valuable paint bigs are.  

 InsidetheHall wrote about him as a "sleeper."   Yawn.  Crean and his "sleepers."  I've kinda' had enough of "sleepers."  I'd rather know what I'm getting, whatever that is.

[Hardwood83 4,897]

2 hours ago, BGleas said:

I don't mean to bash Crean, but it was so refreshing to watch a game of that caliber and see a team that was so well prepared and coached, and at no point did I think the coaching on either side was anything but level. Archie had the team extremely prepared, he had a game-plan that was effective and the players clearly understood, and his adjustments/substitutions made complete sense. 

We got a good one, now it's just a matter of time in terms of how quickly he can ramp the talent level he has to work with. 

I don't take it as bashing, but this is the type of game Crean often won, but then would turn around and look bad losing to Iowa at home. The inconsistency was maddening, but to be fair, the guy had his team show up for big games.....usually.  

[JSHoosier 21,897]

32 minutes ago, 323SGrant said:

This may have been previously mentioned, but I thought Moore would provide more by this point in the season.


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I wasn't high on him to begin with.  IMO it says a lot for where he is that he couldn't get time over McRoberts when we badly needed size.

[Hardwood83 4,897]

I don't feel too bad about this loss. I would have loved to beat the arrogant pricks and their weasel coach, but they are just better than IU. A lot better talent. Missing 10 FT's and 24% 3-pt shooting will lose a lot of games against good teams and Duke is very good and deserves the #1 ranking. The fact IU played them tough and had a real shot to win late is encouraging.

 

[Brass Cannon 25,176]

Just now, Fkfootball1 said:

Creans desperate recruiting landed us Priller and Moore.

Moore should contribute one day

[JSHoosier 21,897]

1 minute ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Creans desperate recruiting landed us Priller and Moore.

You forgot April.

Desperate must be one hell of a drug.

[Brass Cannon 25,176]

Isn't funny people were worried about our offense this year. Can't imagine what Archie will do when he has the right people for his offensive system and defensive system

[OliviaPope40 7,198]

For those who didn't hear what was chanted last night. 

[Hardwood83 4,897]

4 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Moore should contribute one day

I agree. I don't think it's fair to rip the kid as a bust in November of his Freshmen year because he isn't ready to contribute against the #1 team in the country. We'd all love to have guys like Bagley, but there are only a handful of them a year and, according the FBI, they have a steep price-tag. 

[Stromboli 6,149]

28 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

He was a project and one of those guys Crean found he probably felt was a diamond in the rough and out-thought the room.  Clifton Moore was not highly regarded for many reasons, but one is he's just not ready.   He's thin, he's not strong with the ball; and frankly, he's not all that talented.  A 6'10" kid who's better on the perimeter.  We saw last night how valuable paint bigs are.  

 InsidetheHall wrote about him as a "sleeper."   Yawn.  Crean and his "sleepers."  I've kinda' had enough of "sleepers."  I'd rather know what I'm getting, whatever that is.

 

Clifton isn't in the same bucket as Priller or Gelon.  Clifton had better national acclaim (rankings) than Green, Morgan, or Collin, and those guys are leading the team right now.  Were they reaches too?  Some of our favorite IU players are because Crean would "reach," so I'm really not down with the hate.  Just because Clifton hasn't panned out YET doesn't mean much.  We knew he was skinny/under-developed when he came here.  He's already filling out.  I understand that he shows flashes in practice at times.  He did not play a high level of ball in high school, and he's not ready to contribute.  

Also, a 6'10" kid better from the perimeter is what everyone wants right now.  Not sure how that's a knock.  Get him in there where he's not afraid to bump around and he can contribute.  

 

[Old Friend 8,582]

19 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

You forgot April.

Desperate must be one hell of a drug.

And Guy-Marc Michele among others.  

[Old Friend 8,582]

Just now, Stromboli said:

 

Clifton isn't in the same bucket as Priller or Gelon.  Clifton had better national acclaim (rankings) than Green, Morgan, or Collin, and those guys are leading the team right now.  Were they reaches too?  Some of our favorite IU players are because Crean would "reach," so I'm really not down with the hate.  Just because Clifton hasn't panned out YET doesn't mean much.  We knew he was skinny/under-developed when he came here.  He's already filling out.  I understand that he shows flashes in practice at times.  He did not play a high level of ball in high school, and he's not ready to contribute.  

Also, a 6'10" kid better from the perimeter is what everyone wants right now.  Not sure how that's a knock.  Get him in there where he's not afraid to bump around and he can contribute.  

 

You watched last night's game, right?

[BlueDevil 9,359]

Tom Crean will be on the DD show today


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