Corruption in College Basketball

[Hoosier987]

46 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I attended IU from 2009-2013 so don't have reference for what happened. Did the NCAA cause us to lose scholarships? Did Crean kick off players or force players to transfer? How much was Crean's doing, how much was from self punishment, and how much was the NCAA's doing in regards to what happened to the program?

Also how was it even possible for Crean to only post a 2 game win improvement from year 2 to 3? He won less big ten games (3) in year 3 than he did in year 2 (4). Its almost like a child milking an injury because he's getting special attention

I attended IU from '07-'11 so my graduating class witnessed the worst 4 year basketball winning percentage out of any graduating class - unless you graduated in 3 years from '08-'11. If I recall correctly, Ellis and Thomas were asked not to come back, Eric Gordon left for the NBA, DJ white left for the NBA (he had a year left of eligibility due to a medical red shirt) and people like Jordan Crawford simply transferred out. Also, if you recall, we had a helluva a recruiting class coming in -- which included Tu Hollewell -- who decided to open up his recruitment and ultimately chose Xavier to team up with Crawford and Devin Ebanks who also chose not to come to IU and ultimately signed with West Virginia...however Pritchard and Elston (both committed under Sampson) came to IU. 

Yes - imo Crean milked this process and was excellent in buying time with his savvy pr.  This is all speculation, but I have a hunch that if Archie Miller occurred 10 years ago we wouldn't have seen the mass exodus or incoming recruits going elsewhere (after all Archie was able to keep Crean's last recruiting class all in place) like we did with Crean and that our rebuilding job would've been much quicker. Imo, i think a lot of it was self-inflicted.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Hoosier987

[mdn82]

The problem with the NCAA is Mark Emmert. 

I truly feel you could plug and play any person and the result is the same. It’s not the person in charge but the institution itself. It’s an antiquated concept that is no longer realistic.


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[Stuhoo]

Dakich tweeting that there’ll be big Louisville news soon.

 

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Dakich tweeting that there’ll be big Louisville news soon.

 

So nothing of any significance will happen in the forseable future based on his track record. 

[Stuhoo]

21 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

So nothing of any significance will happen in the forseable future based on his track record. 

 Personally? I think that Louisville is going to get truly and completely hammered by the NCAA. 

 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

 Personally? I think that Louisville is going to get truly and completely hammered by the NCAA. 

 

If they do it to Louisville have to think that Kansas gets hammered to. Just as much if not more smoke there

[HoosierAloha]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

If they do it to Louisville have to think that Kansas gets hammered to. Just as much if not more smoke there

They were not already on probation though. 

[MoyeNeeded]

38 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

So nothing of any significance will happen in the forseable future based on his track record. 

Football Petrino probably getting axed.

[schoosier]

2 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

For some reason, a lot of our fans seem to think the NCAA hammered us for the phone calls, when all they did was give us three years probation. We dug our own graves on that one. The nine games for bumper stickers was crap, but that's just another example of what spineless disciplinarians do when their incompetence prevents them from being able to get the goods on someone else.

Didn’t we lose a scholarship or two also?

[coonhounds]

Didn’t we lose a scholarship or two also?

Yes but i believe we did that to ourselves

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[mdn82]

 Personally? I think that Louisville is going to get truly and completely hammered by the NCAA. 

 

Honestly? I think they are the “name” team that gets an example made out of them. Like they already took their title. Only thing left is the Death Penalty. Imo I could see them take it and a Kansas get probation and scholarships. At most Kansas only misses one tournament.

 

 

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[schoosier]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Yes but i believe we did that to ourselves

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Yep for the last two decades. A perfect summarization.

[southernindianahoosier2]

Yep for the last two decades. A perfect summarization.

Hoosiers? More the the Indiana Self Immolaters



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[Stuhoo]

14 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

If they do it to Louisville have to think that Kansas gets hammered to. Just as much if not more smoke there

 

Just as much smoke with Kansas as with Louisville.

Not NEARLY as much fire.

 

[Str8Hoosiers]

Don't think the news DD is talking about is basketball related at all.... 

Today is probably the last game for the Football Coach. He has completely lost the locker room, the recruits, the FANS!

20+ players have reportedly asked for Transfer Paperwork... not that they will all transfer but it is a show of unity from the team that they want him gone.

[MoyeNeeded]

2 hours ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

Don't think the news DD is talking about is basketball related at all.... 

Today is probably the last game for the Football Coach. He has completely lost the locker room, the recruits, the FANS!

20+ players have reportedly asked for Transfer Paperwork... not that they will all transfer but it is a show of unity from the team that they want him gone.

That's exactly what he is talking about! Petrino will be gone after Syracuse game. They are already hedging their bets on Brohm from Purdue.

[TheWatShot]

20 minutes ago, MoyeNeeded said:

That's exactly what he is talking about! Petrino will be gone after Syracuse game. They are already hedging their bets on Brohm from Purdue.

Boiler rushing in to tell us that won't happen in 3...2...1...

[barrettballer]

NCAA drops sanctions on BYU. In typical NCAA fashion they penalize a program that has barely anything to do with the important stuff going on right now [emoji23]

http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2018/11/9/18079544/byu-basketball-nick-emery-ncaa-sanctions


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[Gahoosierfan]

22 hours ago, mdn82 said:

I truly feel you could plug and play any person and the result is the same. It’s not the person in charge but the institution itself. It’s an antiquated concept that is no longer realistic.


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I think when an organization has gone off the rails you start by axing the top guy. 

[HoosierAloha]

32 minutes ago, Gahoosierfan said:

I think when an organization has gone off the rails you start by axing the top guy. 

I think when a governing body has shown an inability to be the least bit effect (see: get anything right) you scrap the whole organization and start over.  I believe we're heading in that direction.