2018 General Recruiting Thread

[VO5 8,272]

2 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

So that was a big day and a half or so, huh?

Not only for the actual team but for Archie, recruiting perception, and '18 and '19 recruiting. And credit to staff, as well. 

Immediate results...Ostrom and Schilling seem to be having the biggest impact so far- as expected. Ostrom on Race, and Hunter- to some degree- though seems it was Archie there. Schilling/Flint/Archie on Damezi...Schilling also had Henry pretty close and is right there w Phinisee. 

IU currently has 3 grants for next year still available. Things could get a little messy if you bring 3 more in because that's essentially a 6 man class with Race being a freshman.If that 3rd is a Romeo, well- that's different. He counts against you for one year and you're back to a balanceable team.  But, IU is in a great spot to be picky. The immediate need is PG. I see no way IU says no to Phinisee even if pursuing higher touted prospects. It's simply too risky and Phinisee isn't scaring off the likes of Garland, Duke, etc. We talked about this earlier so no need to get into it.

Other need? A big? Swing for the fences on guys like Moses Brown. or wait till '19 where you're in w some instant impacts.

But looking forward, and back to praise of the staff, Schilling (somewhat expectedly) has IU back in it and maybe leading with Keion Brooks. Archie and Schilling back in it with RL. The program has gotten the jolt it needed with this staff but there is still work to be done. IU is just in a great place right now. And looking forward with Ostrom...Minnesota is a talent hotbed the last few years..I'm not joking. Ostrom has IU in it till the end with Hurt in '19 and has already produced as stated above.

'19's class appears to be on the smaller size. Add 3 (in '18) and no attrition you have 1 grant (Morgans). Add 2 (in '18) or the Romeo scenario and no attrition you have 2 (in '18) and so on and so forth. Though attrition is bound to happen, it's looking like 2-3. Stabilizing. Focus the approach, narrow in- Hurt, Brooks, Wiseman, Watford, Stewart.

This approach is much more effective, in my very humble opinion. But cannot overstate what the last two days meant for this staff, Archie Miller, and IU.

 

 

Pap, what is your best guess on how the 18' class rounds out?

[Uspshoosier 46,378]

So that was a big day and a half or so, huh?
Not only for the actual team but for Archie, recruiting perception, and '18 and '19 recruiting. And credit to staff, as well. 
Immediate results...Ostrom and Schilling seem to be having the biggest impact so far- as expected. Ostrom on Race, and Hunter- to some degree- though seems it was Archie there. Schilling/Flint/Archie on Damezi...Schilling also had Henry pretty close and is right there w Phinisee. 
IU currently has 3 grants for next year still available. Things could get a little messy if you bring 3 more in because that's essentially a 6 man class with Race being a freshman.If that 3rd is a Romeo, well- that's different. He counts against you for one year and you're back to a balanceable team.  But, IU is in a great spot to be picky. The immediate need is PG. I see no way IU says no to Phinisee even if pursuing higher touted prospects. It's simply too risky and Phinisee isn't scaring off the likes of Garland, Duke, etc. We talked about this earlier so no need to get into it.
Other need? A big? Swing for the fences on guys like Moses Brown. or wait till '19 where you're in w some instant impacts.
But looking forward, and back to praise of the staff, Schilling (somewhat expectedly) has IU back in it and maybe leading with Keion Brooks. Archie and Schilling back in it with RL. The program has gotten the jolt it needed with this staff but there is still work to be done. IU is just in a great place right now. And looking forward with Ostrom...Minnesota is a talent hotbed the last few years..I'm not joking. Ostrom has IU in it till the end with Hurt in '19 and has already produced as stated above.
'19's class appears to be on the smaller size. Add 3 (in '18) and no attrition you have 1 grant (Morgans). Add 2 (in '18) or the Romeo scenario and no attrition you have 2 (in '18) and so on and so forth. Though attrition is bound to happen, it's looking like 2-3. Stabilizing. Focus the approach, narrow in- Hurt, Brooks, Wiseman, Watford, Stewart.
This approach is much more effective, in my very humble opinion. But cannot overstate what the last two days meant for this staff, Archie Miller, and IU.
 
 

If they don't get their pg in 18 I would guess Francis will get a lot of attention in 19 for pg. adding hunter will help and from what I have gathered Francis really like CAM and Indiana. Nice breakdown


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So that was a big day and a half or so, huh?
Not only for the actual team but for Archie, recruiting perception, and '18 and '19 recruiting. And credit to staff, as well. 
Immediate results...Ostrom and Schilling seem to be having the biggest impact so far- as expected. Ostrom on Race, and Hunter- to some degree- though seems it was Archie there. Schilling/Flint/Archie on Damezi...Schilling also had Henry pretty close and is right there w Phinisee. 
IU currently has 3 grants for next year still available. Things could get a little messy if you bring 3 more in because that's essentially a 6 man class with Race being a freshman.If that 3rd is a Romeo, well- that's different. He counts against you for one year and you're back to a balanceable team.  But, IU is in a great spot to be picky. The immediate need is PG. I see no way IU says no to Phinisee even if pursuing higher touted prospects. It's simply too risky and Phinisee isn't scaring off the likes of Garland, Duke, etc. We talked about this earlier so no need to get into it.
Other need? A big? Swing for the fences on guys like Moses Brown. or wait till '19 where you're in w some instant impacts.
But looking forward, and back to praise of the staff, Schilling (somewhat expectedly) has IU back in it and maybe leading with Keion Brooks. Archie and Schilling back in it with RL. The program has gotten the jolt it needed with this staff but there is still work to be done. IU is just in a great place right now. And looking forward with Ostrom...Minnesota is a talent hotbed the last few years..I'm not joking. Ostrom has IU in it till the end with Hurt in '19 and has already produced as stated above.
'19's class appears to be on the smaller size. Add 3 (in '18) and no attrition you have 1 grant (Morgans). Add 2 (in '18) or the Romeo scenario and no attrition you have 2 (in '18) and so on and so forth. Though attrition is bound to happen, it's looking like 2-3. Stabilizing. Focus the approach, narrow in- Hurt, Brooks, Wiseman, Watford, Stewart.
This approach is much more effective, in my very humble opinion. But cannot overstate what the last two days meant for this staff, Archie Miller, and IU.
 
 

How good are the changes of landing Romeo in your opinion?


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1 hour ago, VO5 said:

Pap, what is your best guess on how the 18' class rounds out?

Tough question. I imagine there will be a bit of a shift here in the last two July eval periods. 

Phinisee and a swing for the fences type guy?

[hoosierpap 14,300]

29 minutes ago, HoosierRobbie said:

How good are the changes of landing Romeo in your opinion?


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I wouldn't put money on it right now but thats because I don't trust what I hear out of NA. IU seems to be right there but not the leader

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

I wouldn't put money on it right now but thats because I don't trust what I hear out of NA. IU seems to be right there but not the leader

Haha, you can never trust too much out of NA.

[Hoosier Guy 7,560]

1 hour ago, hoosierpap said:

Tough question. I imagine there will be a bit of a shift here in the last two July eval periods. 

Phinisee and a swing for the fences type guy?

Phinisee and Romeo. That would cap an outstanding class

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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/twittertuesday-hoosiers-big-day-buckeyes-next-move-more

Must of been a smart person who asked him that Hoosier question

 

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11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/twittertuesday-hoosiers-big-day-buckeyes-next-move-more

Must of been a smart person who asked him that Hoosier question

 

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Aritcle mentions and offer from us to Nate Hinton. New name?

[Dalton26 16,892]

5 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Aritcle mentions and offer from us to Nate Hinton. New name?

He's been mentioned on here a few times, not sure if there is a thread.

[Crimson and Cream 5,844]

1 hour ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Aritcle mentions and offer from us to Nate Hinton. New name?

 

[Tom White 1,435]

20 hours ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Romeo is going to IU. I really do believe that

Are you still waiting at the airport for Billy Donovan?

[HooHooHoo22 3,902]

Are you still waiting at the airport for Billy Donovan?

I can't believe I was convinced like 7 different times that billy was coming here


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[Hoosier Guy 7,560]

27 minutes ago, Tom White said:

Are you still waiting at the airport for Billy Donovan?

No. I said Archie would be the best choice after Donovan. That has proven to be correct

[Hoosierfan2017 21,889]

12 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

No. I said Archie would be the best choice after Donovan. That has proven to be correct

Tbh I think Archie might end up being the better choice. Much younger and hungrier. 

[Hardwood83 4,774]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

No. I said Archie would be the best choice after Donovan. That has proven to be correct

Shockingly, no one asked for my input, but I didn't particularly like Archie's hire. Still, he's the Coach now and I want him to succeed wildly, then no one will remember nor care what I thought, including me. 

I'm still not ready to say he's "the guy" just yet, but he has done a lot I like. Pulling in Romeo would be nice.  

[mdn82 25,546]

Shockingly, no one asked for my input, but I didn't particularly like Archie's hire. Still, he's the Coach now and I want him to succeed wildly, then no one will remember nor care what I thought, including me. 
I'm still not ready to say he's "the guy" just yet, but he has done a lot I like. Pulling in Romeo would be nice.  

Yeah there were a couple of people that wanted Marshall. He is over 50 with a batshit crazy wife and he rubs people the wrong way badly. He wasn't an option. Most wanted Donovan, but he was never truly an option. The rest wanted Alford for nostalgic reasons which I will never understand. I know I was beating the Archie drum during the season so I was ecstatic. Donovan was truly the only other coach I would have been thrilled about to the level I was when we got Archie. His personality just fits this state so much better than the last few coaches. Plus he is the son of a coach and lifelong PG that was actually decent. Hopefully you are right.


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Shockingly, no one asked for my input, but I didn't particularly like Archie's hire. Still, he's the Coach now and I want him to succeed wildly, then no one will remember nor care what I thought, including me. 
I'm still not ready to say he's "the guy" just yet, but he has done a lot I like. Pulling in Romeo would be nice.  

I'm not familiar.. are you on the inside with iu basketball?

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