(2019) PF Trayce Jackson-Davis to INDIANA

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2 minutes ago, HoosierDYT said:

Agreed...but he kinda has to play the whole game so I sort of get it. But man was he dominant!


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Yes, and my comment wasn't knocking him at all.  Running the floor and in D1 level shape, he is going to be something!

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Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

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3 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

I’d say net gain, especially if you consider a full year of Race, as well.  This is assuming Hunter is a full go.  

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[HoosierFan1994 4,753]

Good for TJD! He pretty much locked up Mr. Basketball tonight. Would love to see him in Indy in two weekends. IU is getting a good one! Think he will be All-B1G by his sophomore year. 

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1 hour ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Good for TJD! He pretty much locked up Mr. Basketball tonight. Would love to see him in Indy in two weekends. IU is getting a good one! Think he will be All-B1G by his sophomore year. 

Back in the day, I seem to recall they used to vote for Mr. BB before the tournament (otherwise, there's no way Roger Harden beats out Scott Skiles in 1982). Don't know if that's still the case -- I haven't lived in Indiana in 25 years -- and with with TJD's resume, it might not matter anyway. He might've already had it locked up. 

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9 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

Possibly a net loss for next season but a huge net gain going forward.

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9 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

 

+ Race too.

Talent wise it’s a net gain. The mega loss from that group is Juwan, and that’s not meant as a slight at Romeo. Morgan’s leadership and efficient scoring won’t be replaced.

Will need further development and yearlong buy in from the returnees, and I am optimistic that we are over that issue and that next year will be a good one.

The year after that? We oughta be top ten and national contenders.

 

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

+ Race too.

Talent wise it’s a net gain. The mega loss from that group is Juwan, and that’s not meant as a slight at Romeo. Morgan’s leadership and efficient scoring won’t be replaced.

Will need further development and yearlong buy in from the returnees, and I am optimistic that we are over that issue and that next year will be a good one.

The year after that? We oughta be top ten and national contenders.

 

I will say that if we shouldn’t expect the guys coming in to be as good as those leaving we need guys to develop. 

 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Absolutely a net gain. Brooks, Davis and Franklin would be a huge recruiting class. Add Race and possibly Jerome. Not for the sake of this discussion, but the slight possibility that Romeo comes back too

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9 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

Big net gain in terms of talent and skill set but for next season a net loss because of Juwan's rebounding and his and Romeo's point production.  I would foresee next year as a better overall year because I don't see the mid-season collapse occurring again but next year's team will not be a Final Four caliber team and probably just not quite good enough to be an Elite 8 team.

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9 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Let's assume for the sake of discussion we get Brooks.  Is adding Davis, Franklin, Brooks, and Hunter while losing Morgan, Langford, Fitzner, and McRoberts a net gain or a net loss?

I’d almost look at it this way, would you have have Morgan, Langford, Fitzner and McRoberts with a freshmen Phinisee, or TJD, Brooks, Franklin and a healthy Hunter with a sophomore Phiniseee?

 

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1 hour ago, BGleas said:

I’d almost look at it this way, would you have have Morgan, Langford, Fitzner and McRoberts with a freshmen Phinisee, or TJD, Brooks, Franklin and a healthy Hunter with a sophomore Phiniseee?

 

Great point!

No pun intended 

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Will any of TJD, Brooks, Franklin, or Hunter be able to take over a game like Morgan? Morgan has been able to takeover a game and win. I’m not seeing it out of that group. I think we’ll continue to build on skill level.

I’d add in a healthy Davis and that we might be a bit more balanced. I think we could be better if the shooting percentages from outside increase and we have some threats from deep.


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1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

Will any of TJD, Brooks, Franklin, or Hunter be able to take over a game like Morgan? Morgan has been able to takeover a game and win. I’m not seeing it out of that group. I think we’ll continue to build on skill level.

I’d add in a healthy Davis and that we might be a bit more balanced. I think we could be better if the shooting percentages from outside increase and we have some threats from deep.


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Hunter would be best bet simply because time.  Race and Smith are possibilities. And if Rob can make a jump that will help. 

Archie’s message to the team should be “Our first two options on offense are gone, if you want one of those roles go earn it”

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1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Will any of TJD, Brooks, Franklin, or Hunter be able to take over a game like Morgan? Morgan has been able to takeover a game and win. I’m not seeing it out of that group. I think we’ll continue to build on skill level.

I’d add in a healthy Davis and that we might be a bit more balanced. I think we could be better if the shooting percentages from outside increase and we have some threats from deep.


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2 things: 1) the answer to your question is almost certainly no. To me, the key is Rob becoming a guy who can consistently find the exploitable match up and get the ball there. If he can, there are guys who can make winning plays. 2) I like how you slid Brooks in there. 

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5 hours ago, BGleas said:

I’d almost look at it this way, would you have have Morgan, Langford, Fitzner and McRoberts with a freshmen Phinisee, or TJD, Brooks, Franklin and a healthy Hunter with a sophomore Phiniseee?

 

That's kind of how I look at it, also.  Morgan will be a huge loss.  I don't personally believe Romeo will be as huge a loss as he would be a huge gain if he happened to return.   Franklin has a similar skill set; even as I don't think he'll put up the same numbers; and add Hunter and an improved, stronger, more experienced Phinisee/Durham; Romeo won't be missed nearly as much as Morgan's post offense and rebounding will.  Davis + Brooks is far better than the rest of the seniors, so I'm with you on this thought process.

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If Deron is here and healthy, Race plays a full season, and TJD comes in ready to contribute, I think we’ll miss Morgan, but be fine. Phin playing a whole season as a sophomore will cover any guard losses, in my opinion. Brooks will be icing. I suspect next years team will be similar, but have a 20+ win season if healthy instead of what we saw this year.


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Named Gatorade's Indiana Player of the Year.

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6:00 Saturday night Center Grove vs. Ben Davis game stream.

https://www.iscsportsnetwork.com/videos/2019-ihsaa-bbb-ben-davis-vs-center-grove

 

[HoosierFan1994 4,753]

Instead of talking about a recruit that didn't choose IU, let's talk about one that did. TJD's high school career came to an end yesterday. Fell one game short of the state finals. I know nothing about Center Grove basketball but he has to be the greatest player ever at that school. 3 sectionals, 1 regional. I'm sure many awards locally. Should be 2x All-State and Mr. Basketball. I am really excited for TJD to get to IU. I think he will have a solid Freshman season and will be up for FOY. I think he could be All B1G good by his sophomore year. IU hasn't had back to back Mr. Basketball's since the late 90s. That is a good sign for Archie Miller. TJD is going to have a huge part in bringing this program back along with Rob, Al, Armaan, and the rest of this crew. He is going to be a good ambassador for this program. Rob and TJD could very well be one of the best duos in the country in two years.