Who's declaring/transferring around NCAA 2017?

[RaceToTheTop]

McRoberts being in the rotation last year was more of a problem with how Crean developed players than McRoberts actual production.  Zac shouldn't be getting minutes over guys who have more talent and are developing.

[VO5]

Just throwing this out there but another board is saying Gelon is gone and it should be announced this week. 

If you look at his insta he changed his profile pic away from IU back to his HS pic. Would make sense as I don't ever see him being a contributor here.

[Brass Cannon]

23 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Just throwing this out there but another board is saying Gelon is gone and it should be announced this week. 

If you look at his insta he changed his profile pic away from IU back to his HS pic. Would make sense as I don't ever see him being a contributor here.

If so are there any quality Bigs we can make a run at. 

[Stuhoo]

23 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Just throwing this out there but another board is saying Gelon is gone and it should be announced this week. 

If you look at his insta he changed his profile pic away from IU back to his HS pic. Would make sense as I don't ever see him being a contributor here.

 

FWIW...Other board is saying that Gelon is gone as of this afternoon. This board first broke that as a distinct possibility through a respected poster...

Last week.

 

[VO5]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

FWIW...Other board is saying that Gelon is gone as of this afternoon. This board first broke that as a distinct possibility through a respected poster...

Last week.

 

Yeah sorry not trying to direct traffic away from here or anything. This is the best board by far :)

Just wanted to add another source to all that's been said!

[goonaha]

6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

If so are there any quality Bigs we can make a run at. 

Kameron Rooks is a grad transfer out of Cal. 7 feet tall center who still hasn't committed anywhere as far as I know. 5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, .9 bpg last year. Has had injury problems in the past but probably worth a flier to help backup Deron for a year. 

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Yeah sorry not trying to direct traffic away from here or anything. This is the best board by far :)

Just wanted to add another source to all that's been said!

 

No need to be sorry: the "99% prediction" from a new source is noteworthy; just wanted to highlight that BTB has someone who is careful, accurate, and most importantly...potentially right on point.

 

[AKHoosier]

1 hour ago, goonaha said:

Kameron Rooks is a grad transfer out of Cal. 7 feet tall center who still hasn't committed anywhere as far as I know. 5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, .9 bpg last year. Has had injury problems in the past but probably worth a flier to help backup Deron for a year. 

Seems like a good option, and I think we need to get an additional big, given the rumors about De'Ron's eligibility this coming season.  

[goonaha]

2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Seems like a good option, and I think we need to get an additional big, given the rumors about De'Ron's eligibility this coming season.  

Wait, what rumors about De'Ron's eligibility?

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Seems like a good option, and I think we need to get an additional big, given the rumors about De'Ron's eligibility this coming season.  

?!?!?!?

[Tom White]

8 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Seems like a good option, and I think we need to get an additional big, given the rumors about De'Ron's eligibility this coming season.  

Care to spill the beans on this? Seems nobody else knows anything about it.

[HoosierAloha]

I like Mcroberts, but he shouldn't ever get in the game unless we're in foul trouble. He was a deer in the headlights on offense and a non factor. Sure he hustles on D and dives on the floor. But how many guys just sagged off of him to help on our more effective offensive players? 

We have 3 proven front court players in Davis, Morgan, and Hartman. Unless McSwain takes a huge leap forward to be able to play the wing he's nothing more than an athletic McRoberts minus the high bball IQ. (Meaning he's not an offensive threat that really needs to be guarded)

We really need a grad transfer that can contribute in the front court. That would push McSwain and McRoberts down to 5 and 6 instead of 4 and 5.

[Hoosierfan2017]

Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier for his senior year. 

[mdn82]

We have 3 proven front court players in Davis, Morgan, and Hartman. Unless McSwain takes a huge leap forward to be able to play the wing he's nothing more than an athletic McRoberts minus the high bball IQ. (Meaning he's not an offensive threat that really needs to be guarded)

We really need a grad transfer that can contribute in the front court. That would push McSwain and McRoberts down to 5 and 6 instead of 4 and 5.

Are we really going to need more than 3 major contributors in a 3 guard offense? That's 80 minutes divided by 3. Archie has never been one to go 10 deep. We might get a McSwain or McRoberts to get a couple of minutes here and there at the 4. I am not sure we have a need there this year.


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[BGleas]

7 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Are we really going to need more than 3 major contributors in a 3 guard offense? That's 80 minutes divided by 3. Archie has never been one to go 10 deep. We might get a McSwain or McRoberts to get a couple of minutes here and there at the 4. I am not sure we have a need there this year.


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We have no backup for Davis though. We're really thin at the 5. I mean, if Davis were to roll and ankle or something and miss a week or so who plays the 5? Certainly not anyone that's actually a 5. 

[mdn82]

We have no backup for Davis though. We're really thin at the 5. I mean, if Davis were to roll and ankle or something and miss a week or so who plays the 5? Certainly not anyone that's actually a 5. 

But Archie really hasn't played with a traditional 5. He usually runs with 3 guards two forwards. I would definitely feel better with a traditional 5 in this league. I am just not sure how much another traditional 5 plays. Not many grad transfers come into that situation.


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[BGleas]

9 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

But Archie really hasn't played with a traditional 5. He usually runs with 3 guards two forwards. I would definitely feel better with a traditional 5 in this league. I am just not sure how much another traditional 5 plays. Not many grad transfers come into that situation.


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That was Archie in the A-10, entire different ball game than the Big 10. Plus, while Davis had some nice flashes as a freshmen, he's not exactly proven in big minutes and is a guy who conditioning has been a problem for. I think a real backup 5 would get plenty of minutes and be a pretty big need. Whether there's one available or not, I don't know. 

[HoosierAloha]

Are we really going to need more than 3 major contributors in a 3 guard offense? That's 80 minutes divided by 3. Archie has never been one to go 10 deep. We might get a McSwain or McRoberts to get a couple of minutes here and there at the 4. I am not sure we have a need there this year.


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We're also relying on 3 players who've been at IU a combined 7 years and have only had one or two years completely healthy. Those 80 minutes should ideally be closer to 100+ minutes. We're going to be undersized if we're playing a 3 guard lineup for the majority of the game. Our main guards go 6-0, 6-2, 6-3, and a thin 6-4. Against some of the better teams in the B1G we'll be at a height disadvantage. A game has never been won or lost to height but it helps.

If we do end up with another player coming off scholarship I'd like to see CAM get a big in the grad transfer sweepstakes. Having Hartman, Morgan, and McSwain playing strictly the 3 and 4 will be beneficial. It'll also help Smith and Moore to develop instead of being thrown into the fire.

[mdn82]

That was Archie in the A-10, entire different ball game than the Big 10. Plus, while Davis had some nice flashes as a freshmen, he's not exactly proven in big minutes and is a guy who conditioning has been a problem for. I think a real backup 5 would get plenty of minutes and be a pretty big need. Whether there's one available or not, I don't know. 

Was it a conditioning issue or a stylistic issue? Crean was subbing guards out in 5 minutes due to his style of play. Plus his practices were notoriously rough. Crean had them play and practice fast without a purpose. Archie has discussed the need to focus on details. I anticipate changes in some aspects. One of which is a style in which we practice and play that doesn't result in sapping everything out of our team by February. I hope.


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[BGleas]

8 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Was it a conditioning issue or a stylistic issue? Crean was subbing guards out in 5 minutes due to his style of play. Plus his practices were notoriously rough. Crean had them play and practice fast without a purpose. Archie has discussed the need to focus on details. I anticipate changes in some aspects. One of which is a style in which we practice and play that doesn't result in sapping everything out of our team by February. I hope.


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I was talking about Davis specifically. Last year he was not in condition enough to play 30+ minutes. While he'll be better conditioned this year, and our pace should be slower , I still don't expect him to be a 25+ minute guy.