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[Aaron 4,265]

I have been as anti Alford as anybody but a lot of people seem to want him. Even media guys like Greg Raekstraw, Kent Sterling and Zach Osterman who know college basketball and IU like Alford as the hire (I know 2 of these 3 guys personally and really respect them). I also know people dislike Dakich but he definitely in my mind has IU's best interest at heart and he has championed Alford. All these twitter polls (unscientific) seem to have Alford constantly in the lead.

I still don't want Alford but unlike some of you I am willing to give him a chance. The Pierre Pierce thing worries me and he needs to answer about that but if we can get by that he deserves a chance.

Sometime I think these message boards do not represent the true feeling of the mood of IU fans (if you read them you think Alford is the Grinch but elsewhere he is well liked). 

As I have said the farther Alford goes in the tourney the better because either UCLA will fight hard to keep him if we wins a national championship or a lot of IU fans will feel better about the hire if we still get him (I know I will feel better about the hire if he's got a National Championship or Final Four on the resume).

 

[Sknits nad 168]

9 minutes ago, Dizz said:

Still disagree that even leaks have any impact.  All he has to say is "I have no idea where that rumor came from and I will no longer address it."

But if a coach is "waffling" about whether to come to Indiana or not, he shouldn't come.

I'd still take Donovan who waffled over Alford who didn't.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Sknits nad

[Adillac 953]

I'll be happy with Donovan or Alford. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/22/coaching-search-profile-mike-white/

For those who wanna know more about Mike White. Seemed to do alright before Florida too. Top 35 defense there as well. This guy is a rising star. I have also been seeing Chris Mack on A LOT of list as well lately on twitter. I feel like we have our guy and he is either still in the tourney or possibly NBA. We will see soon enough.

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

Everyone has a source, I have a source that randomly stumbled upon me. 

The more you repeat that you have a source, the less I believe you. Just saying.

[Travis Scott 248]

1 minute ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/22/coaching-search-profile-mike-white/

For those who wanna know more about Mike White. Seemed to do alright before Florida too. Top 35 defense there as well. This guy is a rising star. I have also been seeing Chris Mack on A LOT of list as well lately on twitter. I feel like we have our guy and he is either still in the tourney or possibly NBA. We will see soon enough.

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I agree.  I feel like if it was one of the coaches already bounced from the tourney we would have had an announcement by now.  

[Adillac 953]

7 minutes ago, Travis Scott said:

I agree.  I feel like if it was one of the coaches already bounced from the tourney we would have had an announcement by now.  

Yep gotta be down to BD, Alford, Marshall, Bennett. 

[mdn82 25,510]

Probably not Glass particularly but I guarantee you someone gets on this boards to see whats going. Probably not everyday but a lot of media that are involved with IU started off as forum guys. Peegs, Rabjohns, Kent Sterling, McCarthy and I am sure there is a few more I am missing. As easy as it is to download an app and take 10 minutes to skim I guarantee you the news gets related one way or another. Specially with the guys stated above are posting. Glass mentioned reading stuff from fans as well and emails so. Like I said maybe not personally but I would not say there is no chance they do.

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I know the athletic department gets on every site. But it isn't going to make a difference when they offer a coach and whether or not he takes the job.


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[Adillac 953]

Nice list of candidates honestly. 

[Trish 11,506]

10 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

The more you repeat that you have a source, the less I believe you. Just saying.

My sources have notified me of your feelings, will note!

 

 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

I know the athletic department gets on every site. But it isn't going to make a difference when they offer a coach and whether or not he takes the job.


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HI FRED! DON'T **** THIS UP!

[AZ Hoosier 6,569]

I am worried all this speculation by national media and on message boards could kill the deal with Alford so could you all quit talking about him? Please and thanks

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If talking "Alford to IU" will kill any possibility of it happening, then get me a sign to spin outside Glass' office and sign me up!

#NeverAldord

[tablegrapes 108]

9 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I have been as anti Alford as anybody but a lot of people seem to want him. Even media guys like Greg Raekstraw, Kent Sterling and Zach Osterman who know college basketball and IU like Alford as the hire (I know 2 of these 3 guys personally and really respect them). I also know people dislike Dakich but he definitely in my mind has IU's best interest at heart and he has championed Alford. All these twitter polls (unscientific) seem to have Alford constantly in the lead.

I still don't want Alford but unlike some of you I am willing to give him a chance. The Pierre Pierce thing worries me and he needs to answer about that but if we can get by that he deserves a chance.

Sometime I think these message boards do not represent the true feeling of the mood of IU fans (if you read them you think Alford is the Grinch but elsewhere he is well liked). 

As I have said the farther Alford goes in the tourney the better because either UCLA will fight hard to keep him if we wins a national championship or a lot of IU fans will feel better about the hire if we still get him (I know I will feel better about the hire if he's got a National Championship or Final Four on the resume).

 

What can Alford say now about the Pierce fiasco that could change anything in that department? Fall on the mercy of the court and say he made big mistakes and has learned from it? Apologize to the people directly affected? That is not going to be part of his homecoming narrative if indeed it happens.

That story is just an inherent part of his baggage now and always will be. If IU hires him, they are hiring him and the baggage. Nothing he can do to change the past.

[AZ Hoosier 6,569]

1 hour ago, normandale97 said:

Common sense says it likely going to be Bennett or Alford. My guess is the major donors want Alford. Not sure IU has the ability to pull in a home run hire like a Billy Donovan. Hope I'm wrong. I said when Crean was fired (which I agreed with) that we would have a hard time bringing in someone that is head and shoulders above him. The list of potential replacements is really underwhelming. We missed the boat on Stevens years ago and that is coming back to haunt us. Personally, I cannot stand the style of basketball that Bennett's teams play. It's unwatchable for me. Just personal preference. Ready for football season...


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Interesting take. Most "major donors" have a lot of money that they earned by working hard at their craft/trade. I would also tend to believe that they are intelligent folks who analyze everything to death to make sure their next move is the right move. I cannot see anyone with that kind of intelligence making such a horrible decision and pissing away their financial or political resources.

#NeverAlford

[513HoosierJS 28]

I'm not discounting a coach that was already knocked out of the NCAA tournament (Miller, Marshall, Collins, etc). I know it was a different AD, but Crean was knocked out of the tournament on March 22nd and wasn't hired at IU until April 1st.

[Cheaney40 854]

14 minutes ago, Adillac said:

Yep gotta be down to BD, Alford, Marshall, Bennett. 

if it were Marshall, don't you think it'd be done by now?  They've had 3 days to announce after his loss...

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Quote from Crean on locking down in-state recruits:

"Here’s the thing about recruiting, in Indiana or anywhere else: You better know what you’re navigating," he said. “It’s easy to paint with a broad brush, which is something fans do… It’s a business, so I know when a shoe company gets involved, know when a side deal gets cut with the family or a significant person in the family, I know those things. Every recruit is a case study onto itself. I don’t play in a naïve world. I made sure people who need to know know what we were dealing with. You have to have people, and this part moving forward is something I’ll pay attention to, is who’s lived a little bit what we’re dealing with. You’ve got to have somebody who gets it. Walls (around the state) are really hard to put up because it’s a two-way street."

Shocking to many I'm sure, but I'm sure Indiana kids play the games that ruled them out of Crean's recruiting strategies. Maybe locking down the state and doing things the right way don't align like they used to...

[Trish 11,506]

No question about it. All these side deals are cut like he said, shoe deals with AAU teams, promises, etc. 

 

It's a nasty world in recruiting. 

[Cheaney40 854]

Today's Coaching Hot Board (listed in order of probability) according to Peegs .. basically Chris Collins moved up and Donovan fell 3 spots ..... Why is Mike Woodson even on this list?????

1) Steve Alford
2) Tony Bennett
3) Chris Collins
4) Chris Mack
5) Archie Miller
6) Billy Donovan
7) Sean Miller
8) Bryce Drew
9) Chris Holtman
10) Dane Fife
11) Mike Woodson (WTF?)
12) Greg Marshall
13) Mike White

[Demo 19,663]

11 minutes ago, tablegrapes said:

What can Alford say now about the Pierce fiasco that could change anything in that department? Fall on the mercy of the court and say he made big mistakes and has learned from it? Apologize to the people directly affected? That is not going to be part of his homecoming narrative if indeed it happens.

That story is just an inherent part of his baggage now and always will be. If IU hires him, they are hiring him and the baggage. Nothing he can do to change the past.

You're right. There's nothing that SA can really do to change the narrative at this point. My problem with it is that defending a rapist, belittling those that disagreed with him, and trying to intimidate the victim, are not examples of poor decision making that can be learned from. They are examples of narcissism. They are examples of a man with a hole in his soul.