Welcome Coach Miller

[AZ Hoosier]

24 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

Last 6 years Kenpom AdjD( 2017- 2012):

Mack- 65, 22, 57, 76, 62, 49

Marshall- 13, 1, 15, 11, 20, 26

Miller- 41, 15, 31, 72, 145, 158

Cronin- 16, 16, 16, 9, 15 , 24

Interesting,.. where do Alford, Bennett and (for reference sake) Crean stand?

[Sknits nad]

IU would probably only want the noise level down if they are worried it will affect the deal.  Once it is signed they wouldn't care or might even want a little more noise because that could lead to Thunder telling Donovan to take a hike before the playoffs.

[ViaSwiss]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Screenshot?

 

[Bowhunter]

So Pap your saying he's not interested?

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[johnsoniu]

18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Interesting,.. where do Alford, Bennett and (for reference sake) Crean stand?

Alford- 76, 119, 65, 37, 16, 15

Bennett- 2, 7, 2, 4, 24, 5

Crean- 105, 59, 201, 38, 21, 74

[Prilla the Thrilla]

26 minutes ago, Fkfootball1 said:

I should do my own research. But anyone that isn't busy, can you look up defensive rankings for guys like Mack, Marshall, Miller. We've seen Alford and Altman.

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Here we go. Used my time in class well today haha. 

[Prilla the Thrilla]

And here is UVA. Forgot them. 

[ALASKA HOOSIER]

Wichita State is looking more and more attractive. The wife scares me.....The way GM looks like CTC scares me. I know i'm shallow.

[ALASKA HOOSIER]

well, Virginia is looking better. I was thinking Bennett's offense wasn't above average. Boy, i was wrong on that assumption. I thought his team was ALL DEFENSE. That isn't the case at all. He is averaging 27. impressive.

[Tom White]

What happened then?

What happened? Some guys telling people they had sources got everyone all a tithe about a coach who was not coming to begin with.

[goonaha]

1 minute ago, ALASKA HOOSIER said:

well, Virginia is looking better. I was thinking Bennett's offense wasn't above average. Boy, i was wrong on that assumption. I thought his team was ALL DEFENSE. That isn't the case at all. He is averaging 27. impressive.

The offensive dip this year seems pretty clearly linked to the graduation of Malcolm Brogdan. 

[pumpfake]

2 minutes ago, ALASKA HOOSIER said:

well, Virginia is looking better. I was thinking Bennett's offense wasn't above average. Boy, i was wrong on that assumption. I thought his team was ALL DEFENSE. That isn't the case at all. He is averaging 27. impressive.

Statistically, Bennett, Marshall, and White look pretty impressive - especially Tony B.

[Tom White]

DeCourcy's article hits it on the head for why we DON'T NEED Alford.  The last couple paragraphs

Since 1980, 37 NCAA championships have been decided; only five were won by coaches working at their alma maters. Which means 86.5 percent of championship coaches arrived with little or no connection to the college hiring them.

It would be an entirely different college basketball world if John Calipari were the coach at Clarion, Mike Krzyzewski were coaching Army and Beilein worked his offensive magic at Wheeling College. This is rather an absurd scenario, of course, but that is the logical extension of hiring a head basketball coach primarily because of where he attended college.

But Wheeling would have a hell of a team.

OK, DeCourcy, how many coaches were actually coaching their Alma mater TOTAL?

Need a bit more perspective on that.

[Cheaney40]

3 minutes ago, Tom White said:

OK, DeCourcy, how many coaches were actually coaching their Alma mater TOTAL?

Need a bit more perspective on that.

Why do you need more perspective? The point is, being an alumnus of any given school doesn't make you qualified to win national championships at that school .....it doesn't take a famous former player to make the program click again .... it didn't with Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Florida, Louisville, or even Indiana during that time frame ... it took a great coach, which #12 is not .....

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

So many clearly better options than Alford, it makes me sick that it seems like he's the front runner.

1. If he's not an IU great he's NEVER even mentioned
2. More or less paid UCLA to not fire him last year, why would you even consider a coach that almost got fired if you are truly concerned with consistency and deep runs and championships
3. Iowa is not a bottom feeder in the conference, they have had plenty of success prior to Alford, if he was so great of a coach why were his Iowa teams not good
4. If IU is his dream job, which I think is a safe assumption that it is, and IU still loves him why has it taken 20+ years to even consider bringing him over at any capacity
5. Why would you even consider a coach with a 20 year resume very similar to Crean

Alford makes no sense at all other than he was a good basketball player 30 years ago under a HOF coach. The media is so clueless and just think it's a good storyline and I honestly am beginning to think many of them want IU to stay mediocre. Which is mind boggling. Alford would be the worst thing to happen to IU basketball, if he is hired IU will have the same results we had under Crean until Alford retires, they will not fire him.

[seihoosier]

4 minutes ago, Cheaney40 said:

Why do you need more perspective? The point is, being an alumnus of any given school doesn't make you qualified to win national championships at that school .....it doesn't take a famous former player to make the program click again .... it didn't with Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Florida, Louisville, or even Indiana during that time frame ... it took a great coach, which #12 is not .....

Exactly my point.  To that same point, just because Donovan has 2 NCAA rings doesn't mean he'll get a third, but we'd all be DARN happy seeing him announced as the new coach, now wouldn't we? 

 

Edited March 21, 2017 by seihoosier

[Happydaze]

58 minutes ago, seihoosier said:

Wow.  Marshall stands out in that list.  Too bad his wife stood out Sunday.  

Just hire Marshall and build a special padded cell....... er I mean luxury suite for his lovely wife.

[Alford Bailey]

Still not worried about Alford. Just dont think we are that stupid

 

[Cheaney40]

Just now, seihoosier said:

Exactly my point.  To that same point, just because Donovan has 2 NCAA rings doesn't mean he'll get a third, but we'd all be DARN happy seeing him announcement as the new coach, now wouldn't we? 

 

Yes we'd be ecstatic ... because he's a GREAT coach!

[Tom White]

Why do you need more perspective? The point is, being an alumnus of any given school doesn't make you qualified to win national championships at that school .....it doesn't take a famous former player to make the program click again .... it didn't with Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Florida, Louisville, or even Indiana during that time frame ... it took a great coach, which #12 is not .....

What I'm asking is how many guys were coaching their Alma mater in TOTAL.

 

If there were only ten guys coaching their Alma mater, then their success rate is better than if fifty guys were doing it each year. Using a percent of success instead of just a number.