Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,898]

No one panic, not my intended purpose, but I made a tweet about Al having a bright future, but you can tell he's raw at times. I communicate with Southern Stampede and don't want this taken out of context. He deleted the tweet shortly after so he knew it wasn't a smart idea. We talked a bit and I don't have a sense if Al isn't happy, but wanted to share in case anyone else has heard anything. This could just be him looking out for Al and thinking he deserves more time who knows. Anyone have any further input?

Interesting. I think Archie has been pretty fair with the guards. Archie has played the hot hand. Problem is no one really grabs it and holds onto it.

Green has moments that are REALLY high and moments that are really low.

Durham has moments that he gets nothing done for stretches.

Newkirk is the one that has gotten more minutes than maybe he deserved. But Archie has given Durham and others a chance to grab those minutes and no one has really seized the chance.




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[HoosierAloha 30,024]

Durham has had some great stretches in a few games. (Scoring a few buckets, getting to the line, good defensive play) He also has stretches that you don't even know he's out there. It's a freshman thing.

I hope he sticks around, works on his shot and confidence, and develops. He could be that all Big Ten defensive stopper that every good team needs. He'll also be able to get to the rim better as he gets stronger.


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[Stuhoo 79,472]

If you ask me (even though you didn’t) I think that the most likely transfer outcome for next year is that we will lose Moore and one of the two guards.

 

 

 

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[AZ Hoosier 6,507]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Interesting. I think Archie has been pretty fair with the guards. Archie has played the hot hand. Problem is no one really grabs it and holds onto it.

Green has moments that are REALLY high and moments that are really low.

Durham has moments that he gets nothing done for stretches.

Newkirk is the one that has gotten more minutes than maybe he deserved. But Archie has given Durham and others a chance to grab those minutes and no one has really seized the chance.




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In Newkirk's defense, he was the best FT shooter on the team at just a tick under 80%. RoJo, McRoberts and Green were next at just a hair over 70%. That may have been part of the reason for his extra PT... but he made me crazy at times being out of control, or at just being bad on occasion. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,898]

If you ask me (even though you didn’t) I think that the most likely transfer outcome for next year is that we will lose Moore and one of the two guards.
 
 
 
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Agree. I won't cry about it. Talent is lacking across the board. Current players need to really improve or we need a talent infusion.


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[Hovadipo 54,875]

If he wants to go, then.....bye. 

A low-ranked freshman (or a former coach of a current freshman, at least) whining about playing time? Yeah I don’t have time for that. I couldn’t really care less. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Interesting. I think Archie has been pretty fair with the guards. Archie has played the hot hand. Problem is no one really grabs it and holds onto it.

Green has moments that are REALLY high and moments that are really low.

Durham has moments that he gets nothing done for stretches.

Newkirk is the one that has gotten more minutes than maybe he deserved. But Archie has given Durham and others a chance to grab those minutes and no one has really seized the chance.




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I agree. I tried talking reasoning and examples but most were pretty animated. I was hoping someone had heard something to add, but him and Moore were both my guesses to leave though I'd love to keep both. Moore has loads of potential and Al could be a good piece as well.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,182]

If you ask me (even though you didn’t) I think that the most likely transfer outcome for next year is that we will lose Moore and one of the two guards.

 

 

 

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Maybe that's why Archie was wathing the guy from VU

 

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

I do however think it's odd honestly. He wasn't some big name prospect or anything and hes probably gotten more time here then he wouldve elsewhere. If this is Al talking through him though I really wish we took Mckinley Wright even more now

[drewheck 749]

If he wants to go, then.....bye. 
A low-ranked freshman (or a former coach of a current freshman, at least) whining about playing time? Yeah I don’t have time for that. I couldn’t really care less. 

Isnt that his dad

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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,898]

If he wants to go, then.....bye. 
A low-ranked freshman (or a former coach of a current freshman, at least) whining about playing time? Yeah I don’t have time for that. I couldn’t really care less. 

YES YES YES. He's been given chances and he's done pretty decent considering but he hasn't knocked any socks off. Al seems to have a great attitude but dad or coach here might have unrealistic expectations.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Durham has had some great stretches in a few games. (Scoring a few buckets, getting to the line, good defensive play) He also has stretches that you don't even know he's out there. It's a freshman thing.

I hope he sticks around, works on his shot and confidence, and develops. He could be that all Big Ten defensive stopper that every good team needs. He'll also be able to get to the rim better as he gets stronger.


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I won't lose any sleep over Durham leaving. We are bound to lose a player or two to transfer.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

I don't know if it was his dad that tweeted it. They have a few people that update the page every so often, so I don't want to throw his dad directly under the bus, but it did sound like him by how defensive he was getting when I was just saying basic stuff. Who knows honestly lol!!!????

[Hoosier1984 1,548]

Sorry if I missed it but is Southern Stampede really his dad?


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[drewheck 749]

Sorry if I missed it but is Southern Stampede really his dad?


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I think so

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[AKHoosier 6,732]

Maybe this explains Archie's recent trip down to Vincennes.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,775]

Al is averaging 18.8 minutes per game this year. That's really good for a 3 star freshman at a Big 10 school. If he's not happy with his playing time he must've really had unreasonable expectations. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I’m not worried. If Al wants to transfer, he won’t be going anywhere remotely near the caliber of Indiana or Archie Miller. I don’t get the impression that he’s a kid who expected more PT than he’s already gotten as a 200+ ranked recruit.


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[DChoosier 7,732]

I agree. I tried talking reasoning and examples but most were pretty animated. I was hoping someone had heard something to add, but him and Moore were both my guesses to leave though I'd love to keep both. Moore has loads of potential and Al could be a good piece as well.

Not saying you are wrong but what exactly leads you to believe that Moore has loads of potential? He is clearly, thank goodness, not a Tijan but at this point I am not real sure about his upside.


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[Brass Cannon 24,211]

39 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

 

Not saying you are wrong but what exactly leads you to believe that Moore has loads of potential? He is clearly, thank goodness, not a Tijan but at this point I am not real sure about his upside.


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He has physical tools to be successful. So far that's it