Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[ebridges24 2,449]

Then why not do what OG did and say immediately that he wasn't coming back? Seems kinda silly to me to keep everybody waiting if he already knew what his decision was. 

Archie knew, us fans were the ones kept in the dark.

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[Hoosierfan2017 23,143]

Cujo was in Cook Hall like 10 minutes ago. Looks like he's not transferring. 

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

That's good news, but I think Ben Allen transfered in August.

 

[bigrod 2,954]

I guess TB and I have a different definition for "mentally tough" because I didn't see it.

Funny, when I read that I was wondering how he defined that term as well. I guess it's mentally tough to accept getting beat by teams with less talent.


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[mdn82 25,765]

Thomas you are the last person that should talk about mental toughness beyond Grayson Allen.


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[bigrod 2,954]

1 hour ago, mdn82 said:

9 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bryant said he views IU's struggles this past season as a "blessing in disguise because it made us mentally tough." #iubb

 

 

With reasoning like that, I'm thinking there may be another "blessing in disguise" involving TB and IU.

[JSHoosier 21,466]

3 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Thomas you are the last person that should talk about mental toughness beyond Grayson Allen.


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Maybe he was going for comedic relief?

[Hoosierfan2017 23,143]

De'ron's in the gym this morning. I really think he's in for a monster summer. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,725]

Maybe he was going for comedic relief?

Or dealing with scatterbrained Crean all season loss after loss and a rabid fanbase ready to lynch.

Regardless, it isn't a story of perseverance and success.

What a sad season compared to possibilities and presumptions.


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[goonaha 2,974]

I am sure nobody on this board failed at something aged 19. And I'm positive none of you look back on any failures in your life as a learning experience that eventually made you a better person.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,725]

I am sure nobody on this board failed at something aged 19. And I'm positive none of you look back on any failures in your life as a learning experience that eventually made you a better person.

No doubt Crean, Thomas, Blackmon can go on towards success. I hope for it and expect it.

Doesn't change a wasted college basketball season from a fan's perspective (except it was bad enough to CAN Crean-so it was worth it in the long run).

The Codys and Victors are more rooted for than the Vonlehs and Blackmon's.

It comes down to winning and investing into IUBB wholeheartedly before, during, and after.



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[goonaha 2,974]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

No doubt Crean, Thomas, Blackmon can go on towards success. I hope for it and expect it.

Doesn't change a wasted college basketball season from a fan's perspective (except it was bad enough to CAN Crean-so it was worth it in the long run).

The Codys and Victors are more rooted for than the Vonlehs and Blackmon's.

It comes down to winning and investing into IUBB wholeheartedly before, during, and after.



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You can condition your support based on how much a player won in school. I won't do that, but that's your prerogative and wasn't even my point.

 My point was related to the people cracking jokes based off Thomas's comments when it's pretty obvious what he meant. 

[mdn82 25,765]

You can condition your support based on how much a player won in school. I won't do that, but that's your prerogative and wasn't even my point.
 My point was related to the people cracking jokes based off Thomas's comments when it's pretty obvious what he meant. 

So you believe that season made him mentally tough? The same kid that would kick and scream like a 4 year old not getting an ice cream cone if everything didn't go perfect. I doubt very strongly if he learned much about mental toughness this last season.


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[Stuhoo 85,001]

 

I like Thomas Bryant. However, he came to IU as a pretty immature kid.

• He played at IU during a time period when the head coach had a manic, quirky personality. I can see how that was someone Thomas could relate to during his recruitment, but it did him no favors.
• With Yogi, Max, and Z leading the team his freshman year, he seemed to mature substantially during the season, and his improved play reflected that.
• During his second season, without Yogi, Max, and Zeis, he was asked by the manic, quirky head coach to be one of the team's leaders. It. Did. Not. Go. Well.

 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,143]

25 minutes ago, goonaha said:

You can condition your support based on how much a player won in school. I won't do that, but that's your prerogative and wasn't even my point.

 My point was related to the people cracking jokes based off Thomas's comments when it's pretty obvious what he meant. 

I largely base my support on a combination of winning and attitude. We didn't win last year, and Bryant's attitude sucked. He behaved like a petulant child on the court. I hope he can be successful wherever he ends up in life, and I hope he fixes his issues, but as an IU player he was a big disappointment this past season. 

[mdn82 25,765]

 
I like Thomas Bryant. However, he came to IU as a pretty immature kid.

• He played at IU during a time period when the head coach had a manic, quirky personality. I can see how that was someone Thomas could relate to during his recruitment, but it did him no favors.
• With Yogi, Max, and Z leading the team his freshman year, he seemed to mature substantially during the season, and his improved play reflected that.
• During his second season, without Yogi, Max, and Zeis, he was asked by the manic, quirky head coach to be one of the team's leaders. It. Did. Not. Go. Well.

 

Absolutely. I am not saying he is a bad kid, but he knows very little about mental toughness. I don't feel I am bashing him. Hell I was probably less mature than him at that age. His actions on the court will be hard to justify if a GM questioned that statement.


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[RaceToTheTop 28,082]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

No doubt Crean, Thomas, Blackmon can go on towards success. I hope for it and expect it.

Doesn't change a wasted college basketball season from a fan's perspective (except it was bad enough to CAN Crean-so it was worth it in the long run).

The Codys and Victors are more rooted for than the Vonlehs and Blackmon's.

It comes down to winning and investing into IUBB wholeheartedly before, during, and after.



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Edited May 12, 2017 by brumdog45
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[RaceToTheTop 28,082]

A lot of people seem to be conveniently removing Bryant's freshman year when IU DID win.....Big Ten title, 27-8 record.  And talent wise that team didn't match up with the IU teams of Oladipo's sophomore and junior years which had two lottery picks.

did Bryant whine about calls?  Sure.  To my knowledge it never cost the team.....I don't remember a single tech he had and any defensive issues he had weren't in getting back.  I don't recall him saying anything negative in the press.  

I'll take an immature attitude that cares about winning over a complacent one any day.  

[JSHoosier 21,466]

9 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

A lot of people seem to be conveniently removing Bryant's freshman year when IU DID win.....Big Ten title, 27-8 record.  And talent wise that team didn't match up with the IU teams of Oladipo's sophomore and junior years which had two lottery picks.

did Bryant whine about calls?  Sure.  To my knowledge it never cost the team.....I don't remember a single tech he had and any defensive issues he had weren't in getting back.  I don't recall him saying anything negative in the press.  

I'll take an immature attitude that cares about winning over a complacent one any day.  

Actually, he did get a technical in a freshman year.  He got whistled for showboating after a dunk against a cupcake.

[bigrod 2,954]

I am sure nobody on this board failed at something aged 19. And I'm positive none of you look back on any failures in your life as a learning experience that eventually made you a better person.

Apples and oranges. Failing and getting back up, dusting yourself off with a determination to succeed, and then actually succeeding is way different than coming in tenth place and talking about how tough you are.  Hopefully he figures that out.

 

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