TOM CREAN FIRED

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

24 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Gottfried and Crean by marriage I suppose.


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To each other?  

[JSHoosier]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

UNC, Duke, Syracuse, UVA, Louisville, Notre Dame.. Murderer's row every night. I would almost feel bad for the guy. 

I forgot Syracuse was in that conference.  Hey, he might finally be able to beat their zone!  Or get humiliated by it twice a year, one or the other.

[HoosierSadaseci]

Joanie Loves Gottfried...wasn't that a TV show in the 80's?

[SteelerHoosier]

Imagine how much of a **** show it would if a couple. Players and coaches opt to not make the trip lol

[Hoosierfan2017]

Crean's about to leave the program in the same state he found it. If hickoryhoosier is legit then Glass has really let this thing spiral out of control. 

[323SGrant]

7 minutes ago, sirhoosierlot said:

Have it in the old upstairs hper gym! that would be lit! 

I used to love playing up there.

[NCHoosier]

This is what I think about all these "insiders" and "sources" right now. 

It is fairly obvious that nobody besides Glass (and possibly McRobbie) knows what Glass is planning/thinking.

[sirhoosierlot]

1 minute ago, 323SGrant said:

I used to love playing up there.

It really is a cool place to hoop. think about how many good players have played pick up in there 

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Crean's about to leave the program in the same state he found it. If hickoryhoosier is legit then Glass has really let this thing spiral out of control. 

If he's right, then Glass needs fired yesterday.  He makes it sound like Glass is hoping for a 'soft landing' for Crean to leave to avoid the backlash he would receive for not firing the guy; it would mean Glass is concerned with the best interests of Tom Crean and not Indiana basketball.

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

Two things about that HickoryHoosier thing:
The options aren't running dry. It's March 13. At some point Crean would have to realize he has to put his name in more than just the NC State/Missouri pool.
Secondly, I don't believe for a second that players/staff wouldn't make the trip to Atlanta.

I could be wrong, and maybe there's a reason, but I don't remember seeing OG on the bench for the conference games.

[IUrocker]

I'm hoping that it will all just be a matter of  since we got into the NIT and therefore our season continues, Glass isn't going to say anything until they lose and season officially ends just as a respect to Crean thing wanting to coach his players. Once we lose the game and our season is officially finished, Glass comes out and says Crean is gone. As far as making the NIT game an away game, I'm hoping THAT is showing that Glass, once again out of respect to Crean, wants to play away from Assembly Hall to avoid Crean's potential last game of the season beinf one filled with 5,000 booing fans at your own place. Although, it is quite ridiculous at the same time for him to make it an away game knowing we could have groups of fans attend who normally couldn't make a trip to Assembly Hall for a game with their families. Putting that aside though, maybe it's just all about Crean's last experience with the team and the environment he would have to encounter (even though that does look "cowardish"). Hopefully once we do lose, he just comes out and officially says Crean is done. 

[recker222000]

If he's right, then Glass needs fired yesterday.  He makes it sound like Glass is hoping for a 'soft landing' for Crean to leave to avoid the backlash he would receive for not firing the guy; it would mean Glass is concerned with the best interests of Tom Crean and not Indiana basketball.

As ive always said they are joined at the hip. Its about whats best for crean in freds book. I was spot on.

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[Hoosier Guy]

I'm really hating Fred Glass right now. The only way I could trust him again is if he hires a big time coach

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I'm really hating Fred Glass right now. The only way I could trust him again is if he hires a big time coach

I don't think he would.  I'm not sure he would even try to get a big time coach.

We're talking about a guy that hired a football coach that with a total of 5 years coaching experience (3 a position coach) after not conducting an actual search.

[HoosierSadaseci]

5 minutes ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

I could be wrong, and maybe there's a reason, but I don't remember seeing OG on the bench for the conference games.

I'm pretty sure he was on the bench.

[323SGrant]

5 minutes ago, sirhoosierlot said:

It really is a cool place to hoop. think about how many good players have played pick up in there 

Yep. I played with some of Knight's players up there. Those dudes could play. Don't want to derail the thread too much.  Can't believe IU won't play a home game in the NIT! 

[Maynard]

1. If the narrative of the national media, that Crean will ultimately decide whether or not he leaves, is true, then things have gotten WAY out of control for Glass.  He cannot allow the coach of any program to exert that sort of power.  Basically, Crean is holding Indiana hostage if this is true. 

2. The Road Game: It would not be good for Crean or the University to have a half-filled Assembly Hall booing Crean throughout an NIT game that they might very well win.  If Crean is already gone this makes a lot of sense.  If he is still going to be around, the boo birds are going to be ready next season.  Rumor has it that a Fire Tom Crean group is growing among the students, as rallies are being planned.  Some students have been reports receiving emails and signing up.

3. The Coaching Search: Unless Glass has put out feelers and KNOWS that he has a legitimate shot at a Bennett, Donovan, etc.  He is completely foolish to wait on Tom Crean.  "We'd love to hire you coach Donovan/Bennett, but we have to get permission from our current coach first."

4. Insiders:  Its hard to know what to make of the insiders.  Many people have multiple motives for putting out information.  I love the forums, but those who operate them aren't hurt at all by the swirling, constantly changing rumors, this all keeps us glued to the screen clicking refresh.  Others love the attention they get when they release vague snippets.  I am not criticizing anyone specifically, it is just difficult to distinguish between all of these people with unknown motivations.

Ultimately time will tell.  I am very optimistic that he is gone.  I hope that his best days are in front of him.

[Hoosier Guy]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I don't think he would.  I'm not sure he would even try to get a big time coach.

We're talking about a guy that hired a football coach that with a total of 5 years coaching experience (3 a position coach) after not conducting an actual search.

He basically spurned Billy Donovan two years ago in favor of Crean. He might not have the balls to get a big time coach. If he doesn't get this right, he needs to go as well. Hell, it's already clear that the guy is a coward and is interested in just Crean and not the university. He needs to get the axe

[SteelerHoosier]

5 minutes ago, 323SGrant said:

Yep. I played with some of Knight's players up there. Those dudes could play. Don't want to derail the thread too much.  Can't believe IU won't play a home game in the NIT! 

Like who?

[Bgaines99]

So...back to the main topic of Crean's replacement. I'm all for BD or Stevens or Archie or Sean or even Marshall but what about Mike Brey at ND? He's taken them to back to back elite 8's and they play with passion and tenacious defense. Not to mention being in the ACC this year is a big feather in their cap since it was such a deep league.


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