TOM CREAN FIRED

[JSHoosier 19,816]

1 hour ago, LIHoosier said:

 

Well done, sir, well done.

[Feathery 4,005]

I dont think Crean gets an extension. 

If Stevens says yes, Crean is gone. 

If Stevens says no, i dont know. Id still make a change but not sure what will happen. 

Worst case scenario is Crean gets a final year next year, but i could also see him bailing before being forced out, a la Buzz Williams. 

[recker222000 1,010]

I dont think Crean gets an extension. 

If Stevens says yes, Crean is gone. 

If Stevens says no, i dont know. Id still make a change but not sure what will happen. 

Worst case scenario is Crean gets a final year next year, but i could also see him bailing before being forced out, a la Buzz Williams. 

Next year will be a waste if he stays. I could see him leaving on his own. Without an extension recruiting is dead.

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[recker222000 1,010]

I think Glass gives him one more year based solely off injuries this season and Big Ten championship and coach of the year last season. 

Recruiting is part of his job so missing out again on Indiana stud Wilkes and others, a true point guard like Waters , leaves the cupboard pretty bare for the immediate future. 

With that being said I will be shocked if he gets an extension and Is the coach of IU basketball after next season. 

No point in giving him next season. None. It's not like he has Cody zeller coming in.

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[Hovadipo 54,997]

No point in giving him next season. None. It's not like he has Cody zeller coming in.

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Fred Glass tho


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[IUHAHN81 2,176]

Not to mention, it's almost a guarantee that some poor kid is gonna have a season ending injury at some point next season anyway with the way our luck goes.  

[bigrod 2,848]

I started watching IU basketball during the 1981 season. Obviously, that season ended well, and I've been hooked ever since. I've seen some really good years and struggled through some not so good years. I'm definitely not an influential booster, but I have traveled the 3 hour trip to Bloomington for many games over the years, and have contributed to the University in other ways. Ive sustained a great appreciation for IU basketball through RMK's final few years when it seemed he had lost interest, through the Davis years, to the Sampson debacle. Through all of that, I have to say that I'm at a point where if Glass is content with these mediocre bi-polar seasons, I've lost my passion. I can find other ways to spend my time and money if he feels this is a satisfactory product. The days of being a fan through thick and thin have gone the way of a player playing with the same team for their whole career. It's all about the $$ now, and I'll find plenty of other places to spend mine.


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[HoosierAloha 30,024]

Posted in another thread but the noncon SOS is another helter skelter Creanism. Let's play cupcakes and elite teams with very little middle ground. I thought it would cost us a seed line but it might end up costing us an invite. Thanks Crean, glad you got a few extra wins to your record.

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Posted in another thread but the noncon SOS is another helter skelter Creanism. Let's play cupcakes and elite teams with very little middle ground. I thought it would cost us a seed line but it might end up costing us an invite. Thanks Crean, glad you got a few extra wins to your record.

No concept of balance in anything he does. Roster, schedule, playing style.......

[VO5 8,272]

2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Posted in another thread but the noncon SOS is another helter skelter Creanism. Let's play cupcakes and elite teams with very little middle ground. I thought it would cost us a seed line but it might end up costing us an invite. Thanks Crean, glad you got a few extra wins to your record.

God how I wish someone would grill him with that line of questioning. Show him our average noncon SOS and tell him to explain. I fully believe he wants the padded wins and to say "Hey look, I won 20 games this year!". There is no other reason to schedule the teams we do.

[bigrod 2,848]

God how I wish someone would grill him with that line of questioning. Show him our average noncon SOS and tell him to explain. I fully believe he wants the padded wins and to say "Hey look, I won 20 games this year!". There is no other reason to schedule the teams we do.

You mean some teams actually use the non conference schedule to improve themselves and not just pad wins???

I love the Crean defenders trying to say everyone does it. Sure, everyone sprinkles in a few, but not like Tommy does. Top 10 or bottom 100. How is that making the team better? Nebraska answered that question.


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[recker222000 1,010]

Not to mention, it's almost a guarantee that some poor kid is gonna have a season ending injury at some point next season anyway with the way our luck goes.  

He will have an excuse every year he stays or glass let's him stay. This needs to end this april.

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[Trish 11,505]

1 hour ago, VO5 said:

God how I wish someone would grill him with that line of questioning. Show him our average noncon SOS and tell him to explain. I fully believe he wants the padded wins and to say "Hey look, I won 20 games this year!". There is no other reason to schedule the teams we do.

Hey now wait a minute, UMass Lowell presses, they should be on the schedule ;)

[Uspshoosier 45,004]

You mean some teams actually use the non conference schedule to improve themselves and not just pad wins???

I love the Crean defenders trying to say everyone does it. Sure, everyone sprinkles in a few, but not like Tommy does. Top 10 or bottom 100. How is that making the team better? Nebraska answered that question.


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definitely not a crean defender but plenty of teams schedule more +150 rpi teams then they probably should. Where crean takes it to the next level is the +300 teams. While studying team resumes. Iu had 8 wins against the +150 (4 of those +300teams, and 3 of those +240 teams) bringing a non con sos of 167.

Duke had 6 wins against +150 rpi teams (1 of those +300 teams and 3 of those +200 rpi, with the others 2 high +100) bringing non con sos of 99.
If iu would of played 4 game against cupcakes closer to 200 rpi instead of over 300 rpi they would of improved their non con sos and still played cupcakes.

Northwestern is everyone's feel good story on them making the tournament this year.
6 wins against +200 rpi in non con and 2 others +130. Bringing non con sos to 221
Worst yet of their 7 wins in league @ohio st and and win against IU(no OG, no James) is their best wins. Northwestern has an rpi of 31 with a non con sos or 221. Teams could and should take advantage of scheduling to boost their rpi (hello Florida) I just wish our approach would do the same


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[JSHoosier 19,816]

2 hours ago, Treesh said:

Hey now wait a minute, UMass Lowell presses, they should be on the schedule ;)

Sometimes I think the requirement is if you can't find the team on Google, they're perfect.

[JSHoosier 19,816]

4 hours ago, VO5 said:

God how I wish someone would grill him with that line of questioning. Show him our average noncon SOS and tell him to explain. I fully believe he wants the padded wins and to say "Hey look, I won 20 games this year!". There is no other reason to schedule the teams we do.

His explanation, "they're like SEC teams".

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,848]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

His explanation, "they're like SEC teams".

Some  Easy  Conference

[JSHoosier 19,816]

12 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Some  Easy  Conference

SEasy 

 

[HoosierAloha 30,024]

God how I wish someone would grill him with that line of questioning. Show him our average noncon SOS and tell him to explain. I fully believe he wants the padded wins and to say "Hey look, I won 20 games this year!". There is no other reason to schedule the teams we do.

I would like to have honest answers to a ton of questions but I'm not sure he's capable of anything except coach talk. The scheduling cost us a seed line last season. You would think that's enough to reconsider the scheduling for most but not for our "fearless" leader.

[Sota Hoosier 450]

My buddy who is a Notre Dame fan texted me out of nowhere the other day and just said "Hoiberg is your next coach" so at least others outside of IU circles are seeing there is a need for change