College Football Thread

[Josh]

17 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

I posted the same thing after the nerds behind the computers decided they know more about football than the results on the field.  College Football Playoff committee nerds killed the ACC

But I'm happy about this though.  IU games in Florida is exactly what I need in my life

[Tom White]

29 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Here we go again. When FSU got shafted I thought that would be what pushed them out of the ACC since they had already been looking to get out. At very least there would be rumors about it. Here are the rumors:

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/08/rumor-florida-state-working-to-leave-acc-for-big-ten-within-next-month/

If they do leave, CFP committee may have just killed the ACC if this happens. 1/2 of the ACC was already looking to leave and the ACC would become that much weaker without FSU and it was already weak enough that an undefeated ACC wasn't good enough to get into the CFP over 2 11-loss teams.

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

[Josh]

5 minutes ago, Tom White said:

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

Agreed.  Which is why we have to start performing in football.  Absolutely have to

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Tom White said:

HA! If this trend continues, I can picture the BigTen being forced to break up much like years ago when AT&T was forced to separate from the seven "baby bells".

It'll happen eventually. Schools will start realizing that losing isn't good and having a bigger and bigger conference will only lead to more losing.

[Hovadipo]

Dillon Gabriel to Oregon. Huge get for Lanning. 

[Home Jersey]

16 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

I honestly have no clue how this all shakes out, but it would be kinda hilarious for all these schools to just split into two super conferences and everything comes full circle where they split into regional divisions and just have a playoff format amongst themselves, then the two super conference winners play each other.... and they basically just cut out the NCAA to govern themselves.

Lol. Don't know if that's realistic at all but it would be pretty funny... and help manage costs/bring back historic rivalries!

[J34]

49 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

So much for cutting down on our carbon emissions.lol

[go iu bb]

2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

What is the end game here for the B1G and conference expansion? Sincere question- is the goal simply mindlessly gathering as many valuable properties as possible (like a hoarder) or is there a plan to make sense of this at some point? I want to believe there is, but circumstances tell me otherwise. This isn't some inevitable progress, it's just mania for it's own sake. 

Can someone explain to me how a 19 team, nation-wide conference is manageble, sustainable and a positive thing for IU and college sports overall? Any chance this is the end and the conference will spend the next 10yrs assimilating the new members and creating a culture? No, next month will be Miami and then No Carolina and.....?

The Big Ten should tell FSU 'no', but of course that won't happen, because more is always better. 

This alone wouldn't be the reason that FSU leaves (if they do),  but would certainly be the last straw that makes it happen. This shows how little value staying in the ACC has: less money from TV contracts and the wins mean less than in the B1G, $EC, and Big 12. Even the expanded playoff starting next year will be heavily populated by schools from those 3 conferences. When it's a question between a school from those conferences and the ACC, the ACC will continue to lose out.

If the B1G adds them, they would likely also add at least 1 other school from the ACC.

[OliviaPope40]

Looks like Jayden Daniels will end up with the Heisman. 

[Hovadipo]

My Heisman will be playing in the CFP. The voters’ Heisman will be playing in whatever they renamed the Outback Bowl. 
 

#NotMyHeisman

[Josh]

The SEC had a down year.  But we better put one of their teams in the playoffs and make one of their players the Heisman winner!

Yuck.

[Rico]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/tyler-van-dyke-commits-to-wisconsin-ex-miami-star-qb-set-for-fresh-start-with-badgers/

[DChoosier]

On 12/9/2023 at 11:37 AM, Hardwood83 said:

I have to disagree. The CFP isn't killing the ACC. Sure FSU got screwed, but leaving their conference doesn't fix that, it's just an excuse. 

I agree with you. FSU wanted to leave the ACC prior to the CFP selections and they are smart enough to realize being in the ACC won’t be an issue, when it comes to the CFP, beginning next year due to the expansion to 12 teams.

They are just using the CFP as an excuse as we all know it’s all about the student athlete (er….I mean the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, DChoosier said:

I agree with you. FSU wanted to leave the ACC prior to the CFP selections and they are smart enough to realize being in the ACC won’t be an issue, when it comes to the CFP, beginning next year due to the expansion to 12 teams.

They are just using the CFP as an excuse as we all know it’s all about the student athlete (er….I mean the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).

Sure, an undefeated ACC would get into the 12 team field without issue. However, the ACC will continue to get screwed over in favor of other conferences if the teams aren't undefeated. ACC will probably still have some deserving teams left out for the last spot. It's not as big of an issue as the undefeated conference champion being left out but it'll still be an issue.

[Hovadipo]

2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Sure, an undefeated ACC would get into the 12 team field without issue. However, the ACC will continue to get screwed over in favor of other conferences if the teams aren't undefeated. ACC will probably still have some deserving teams left out for the last spot. It's not as big of an issue as the undefeated conference champion being left out but it'll still be an issue.

Part of that is because ACC football stinks. FSU’s schedule/record metrics were bad for a reason. ACC schools occupied most of the bottom of the SOS and SOR rankings of all P5 schools. 

[go iu bb]

3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Part of that is because ACC football stinks. FSU’s schedule/record metrics were bad for a reason. ACC schools occupied most of the bottom of the SOS and SOR rankings of all P5 schools. 

Right. As the money discrepancy increases between them and the other major conferences, there's no reason to think that'll change. It might actually get worse. My point is that the playoff expanding to 12 teams didn't mean the ACC will be better off. 

[LIHoosier]

Right. As the money discrepancy increases between them and the other major conferences, there's no reason to think that'll change. It might actually get worse. My point is that the playoff expanding to 12 teams didn't mean the ACC will be better off. 

The 12 team playoff will be 4 B1G, 4 SEC, B12 champ, ACC champ, the best G5 team, and ND if they win 9 games.

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[DChoosier]

3 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Right. As the money discrepancy increases between them and the other major conferences, there's no reason to think that'll change. It might actually get worse. My point is that the playoff expanding to 12 teams didn't mean the ACC will be better off. 

They will be better off in regards to the fact that FSU would have unquestionably been in a 12 team field this year.

[Rico]

McCord to Syracuse...

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/football/2023/12/17/kyle-mccord-former-buckeyes-qb-expected-to-transfer-to-syracuse/71931721007/

[Hovadipo]

Wow, good for him. I’ll be kind of surprised if this doesn’t work out pretty well for them.