College Football Thread

[Brass Cannon]

29 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

To be fair to ND, that's not what they argued at all.  They just said that as the ACCs biggest football business partner and a member of the conference in every other sport, the ACC as a conference should have been neutral and Miami should have said whatever they wanted to about it.

Which is still ridiculous. Miami getting in brought I  revenue share and benefitted every ACC school. Notre Dame doesn’t share the money.  Absolutely ridiculous to think the ACC wasn’t going to advocate for it full member. 
 

You don’t get all the perks of being in a conference without some of the drawbacks.  Notre can go flip themselves.  

[J34]

7 hours ago, newcastle12 said:

To be fair to ND, that's not what they argued at all.  They just said that as the ACCs biggest football business partner and a member of the conference in every other sport, the ACC as a conference should have been neutral and Miami should have said whatever they wanted to about it.

A business partner that doesn't share its revenue? 

[mamasa]

I have seen in a couple of places that Kalen DeBoer is their #1 realistic target

[Stuhoo]

24 minutes ago, mamasa said:

I have seen in a couple of places that Kalen DeBoer is their #1 realistic target

Not saying it's untrue, but what makes DeBoer realistic for them?

[mamasa]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not saying it's untrue, but what makes DeBoer realistic for them?

Good question- that's the lead I saw on the stories

[rcbowla]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not saying it's untrue, but what makes DeBoer realistic for them?

If DeBoer has any self-awareness he realizes that he's never going to be able to live up to his predecessor. He may want to get out while his stock is still high? That fan base is already not happy with him and another year like these last 2, or worse, next year and he'll likely be forced out with stock down. Being the HC at UM is one hell of a consolation if that's how you want to look at it. Idk if UM wants him or if he wants to leave Bama but I could certainly see where everyone involved could see this as a good thing. 

[Stuhoo]

43 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

If DeBoer has any self-awareness he realizes that he's never going to be able to live up to his predecessor. He may want to get out while his stock is still high? That fan base is already not happy with him and another year like these last 2, or worse, next year and he'll likely be forced out with stock down. Being the HC at UM is one hell of a consolation if that's how you want to look at it. Idk if UM wants him or if he wants to leave Bama but I could certainly see where everyone involved could see this as a good thing. 

Nope - not seeing this at all. No one is giving up the Bama job for Michigan. DeBoer won't even know who the AD is for Michigan. If and when the coverup of Moore's issues by the UM Athletic Department is revealed and the AD is fired? Yikes.

And unless it's a well-sourced reporter? Any rando speculation about candidates for any job these days is likely a kid writing out of mama's basement under some website name that sounds (but isn't) legit, such as the current monetized but no longer legit "Sports Illustrated" or it's an AI-created article.

[hoosiersoxfan]

Paul BaldTrollDumb@$$ says that he is hearing DeBoer is Michigan's top choice.  Can't stand BaldTrollDumb@$$ but he does have sources everywhere, especially in the south.

PS, the last name being automatically changed to BaldTrollDumb@$$ is hilarious.  Reminds me of Jim having Dwight's name changed to Diapers in The Office whenever he would type it.

[Home Jersey]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Nope - not seeing this at all. No one is giving up the Bama job for Michigan. DeBoer won't even know who the AD is for Michigan. If and when the coverup of Moore's issues by the UM Athletic Department is revealed and the AD is fired? Yikes.

And unless it's a well-sourced reporter? Any rando speculation about candidates for any job these days is likely a kid writing out of mama's basement under some website name that sounds (but isn't) legit, such as the current monetized but no longer legit "Sports Illustrated" or it's an AI-created article.

Yeah, I have an extremely hard time buying this actually having credibility. On the surface I could believe the logic of getting out of dodge before getting fired, but I don't think coaches like DeBoer have that mindset and walking away from Bama after 2 years is tantamount to admitting defeat. Highly skeptical that's his career play coming off a CFP trip and staring down the barrel of uncertainty at UM. They'd have to make him the highest paid coach and then some. 

I'd enjoy it only because it would really crush the self esteem of PSU fans around me IRL who hand to God believed they were getting him because they way overestimate their brand appeal.

Verrrrrrry curious who they hire at this point in the cycle. Brian Kelly would be the funniest timeline. But I think a young up and comer is way more likely. What's Connor Stalions up to these days???

[Pagoda]

10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yeah, I have an extremely hard time buying this actually having credibility. On the surface I could believe the logic of getting out of dodge before getting fired, but I don't think coaches like DeBoer have that mindset and walking away from Bama after 2 years is tantamount to admitting defeat. Highly skeptical that's his career play coming off a CFP trip and staring down the barrel of uncertainty at UM. They'd have to make him the highest paid coach and then some. 

Right.  DeBoer is hyper competitive and he's got a good team and recruits coming in and his whole system setup at a top-5 program.  I doubt he's overwhelmed by the message board posters and media down there such that's he's gonna run away to UM and all the uncertainty up there.

I'm sure Kalen's agent doesn't mind his name being out there, I'd guess that plus UM targeting him is what creates this story.  But like you I don't think Kalen will be interested.

Also UM has never pulled a big program coach before -- Rich Rod and Hoke were not, and Jim was puttering out in the NFL.  Sherrone was obviously an internal hire.  UM is a very good job, but something is a little off up there, sans Jim's very good three years (which they got caught cheating which cost like $30M), they've generally been disappointing given their resources for like 20 years.

[Hovadipo]

I think it's a timing issue for Deboer, due to what Stu said above, but I also see the logic of getting out of dodge before it gets ugly with Bama fans. He wanted that Michigan job bad last time too. I've always thought of him as an eventual NFL guy due to not having any strong college allegiances and not being big recruiting. Jumping to Michigan just to head to the league in a few years would be pretty funny as a gigantic hater of all things Michigan.

[iu2win]

I think it comes down to Kalen's mindset regarding these entitled schools/fan bases.  For example, Ryan Day was an idiot and OSU fans were calling for his head after the loss to Michigan last season.  Then, OSU won the natty and suddenly he was a genius again.  I read posts within discussions leading up to the conference championship where OSU fans were demeaning Cig and claiming Ryan Day as the best college football coach in the nation.  Then, IU wins and Ryan Day is an idiot again for not calling run plays on 3rd and 1, and subsequent 4th and 1 before the missed kick.  Now, that is not to say Kalen wouldn't face the same thing at Michigan but I do think the fans up there are a bit more inclined to give their coaches two to three years to really get it going.  

[Rico]

Dan Patrick just had a reporter from the Detroit Free-Press on his show.  He says DeBoer is a candidate and that Brian Kelly is not.

[Lebowski]

The UM situation reminds me of Walter McCarty and UE. Absolutely troubling information being reported. Let's hope all parties get the help and support they all need. 

[jermhoosierfan]

1 minute ago, Lebowski said:

The UM situation reminds me of Walter McCarty and UE. Absolutely troubling information being reported. Let's hope all parties get the help and support they all need. 

There were all kinds of blaring signs with McCarty also.  He had coeds hanging out at his house, and his downfall was the one he knocked up wanting the money for an abortion. He told her No, and she told those in charge.  Neither of them were very smart about stuff.

[Lebowski]

16 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

There were all kinds of blaring signs with McCarty also.  He had coeds hanging out at his house, and his downfall was the one he knocked up wanting the money for an abortion. He told her No, and she told those in charge.  Neither of them were very smart about stuff.

Not to hijack this thread about UEBB but he was on path to work some magic for the Aces. A dang shame what happened. 

[FortWayneHoosier]

42 minutes ago, Rico said:

Dan Patrick just had a reporter from the Detroit Free-Press on his show.  He says DeBoer is a candidate and that Brian Kelly is not.

I am not a huge cfbb fan....obviously been following along with our historic seasons...but why is DeBoer a candidate there? Is it looking like his time at Alabama is coming to an end there?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

4 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

I am not a huge cfbb fan....obviously been following along with our historic seasons...but why is DeBoer a candidate there? Is it looking like his time at Alabama is coming to an end there?

Lot of it is just hype to get some clicks like when Cig was being touted as headed to Penn St.  

[Rico]

8 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

I am not a huge cfbb fan....obviously been following along with our historic seasons...but why is DeBoer a candidate there? Is it looking like his time at Alabama is coming to an end there?

Rumors are that he and his family are not happy there.  

[Lebowski]

16 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

I am not a huge cfbb fan....obviously been following along with our historic seasons...but why is DeBoer a candidate there? Is it looking like his time at Alabama is coming to an end there?

It's Michigan. I would be surprised if he ends up there or if it's even true but ultimately, it's Michigan. It's a big dog with a big house that has big resources comparable to any program in the country. It also has more CFB titles than Bama over the last 4 years. NIL has evened the playing field and tilted it in our, meaning Big Ten, favor over the last 3 years and coaches know this. It's a program that can sell itself and attract any coach on the planet. 

Having said all that, it's Michigan. They typically look in house when it comes hiring.