Maedhros Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said: So they didn’t need 3 star Kaminsky(242), 3 star Hayes(137), and Koenig 4 star (110) to make the final 4? They needed all of those guys to make a final 4. As good as Dekker was, Wisky doesn’t make it to the final 4 without those 3 kids with a composite ranking outside the top 100 in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app You're attacking a straw man; I made no such claim. Yes, of course Wisconsin needed all those guys. Five star recruits don't get you to the Final Four on their own. Ask Ben Simmons or Markelle Fultz. But I was responding to the notion that we can recruit exclusively those caliber of players and achieve satisfactory results. Wisconsin's recruiting approach - landing players like Hayes and Koenig - allowed them to be consistently good, but never great; not until a brief window of luck when Kaminsky surprised everyone with Oladipo-like development at the same time a top ten recruit decided to stay home. Those conditions are unlikely to repeat for the Badgers with any regularity. Maybe shooting the moon like that is the most our program can hope for at this point. But I think most of the same fans holding up Wisconsin's recruiting as a model to emulate would also be disappointed if after twelve years under Archie we have only one Elite Eight appearance to show for it. WayneFleekHoosier, MikeRoberts, VO5 and 1 other 4 Quote
goonaha Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Looks like everyone took USPS' rules reminder to heart. Lol. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Popular Post Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted November 24, 2017 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2017 I came here for Romeo talk. Can someone direct me to that thread? zsmithey4, IUsafety, Capt. Crimson and 6 others 9 Quote
Me So Hornsby Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 This place is spiraling lol. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Capt. Crimson and Yogi's Picnic Basket 2 Quote
Me So Hornsby Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I am supremely jealous of all those going to see Romeo tomorrow though. I hope we get some good first hand accounts Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Then duke must be the biggest cheater of them all given all the 5 stars they get. Coach k must be incredibly dirty. Same with izzo.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkSpot on! Yes Duke is likely a big offender- cars, jewelry etcSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I am supremely jealous of all those going to see Romeo tomorrow though. I hope we get some good first hand accounts Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Hopefully those that do role in with candy striped pants and give him a dose of what to expectSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
MikeRoberts Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 You're attacking a straw man; I made no such claim. Yes, of course Wisconsin needed all those guys. Five star recruits don't get you to the Final Four on their own. Ask Ben Simmons or Markelle Fultz. But I was responding to the notion that we can recruit exclusively those caliber of players and achieve satisfactory results. Wisconsin's recruiting approach - landing players like Hayes and Koenig - allowed them to be consistently good, but never great; not until a brief window of luck when Kaminsky surprised everyone with Oladipo-like development at the same time a top ten recruit decided to stay home. Those conditions are unlikely to repeat for the Badgers with any regularity. Maybe shooting the moon like that is the most our program can hope for at this point. But I think most of the same fans holding up Wisconsin's recruiting as a model to emulate would also be disappointed if after twelve years under Archie we have only one Elite Eight appearance to show for it.Yep!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Bailey7878 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Spot on! Yes Duke is likely a big offender- cars, jewelry etcSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appAnd he will be hailed as one of the greatest and cleanest coaches of all time. Sick.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said: I think Wisconsin may be the best example of a program that recruits their state well and has a good balance of 3, 4, 5 star talent and likely plays within the rules and has consistent success. IF they are the best example, what does that say for that model in today's game? 2 final 4s and 0 championships in their 16 year period of success. It would be a telling example except there's no comparison between recruiting the state of Wisconsin and recruiting the state of indiana. If our roster has 4 indiana 3 stars, 4 indiana 4 stars and 4 indiana 5 stars, we are going to be very very very good. Quote
mamasa Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Romeo?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners IUsafety and zsmithey4 2 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Wishing I could go to the Bloomington game this weekend! I hope the atmosphere is awesome for him. Since they moved one of NA's games to Indy on Jan 6th I'll be heading to that one instead. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
rcbowla Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Thing is I'm pretty sure there was a thread created to talk about the "gray area stuff". mamasa 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 It would be a telling example except there's no comparison between recruiting the state of Wisconsin and recruiting the state of indiana. If our roster has 4 indiana 3 stars, 4 indiana 4 stars and 4 indiana 5 stars, we are going to be very very very good.Very true, if you gave that roster to Archie I have no doubt he would do well. Only issue there is the 4 5* players. Wisconsin has usually had one on roster at all times, rarely 2, never 3 or 4 and that is the difference we are talking about. To have 4 5* players on your roster at one time, I believe you have to get your hands dirty. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said: Very true, if you gave that roster to Archie I have no doubt he would do well. Only issue there is the 4 5* players. Wisconsin has usually had one on roster at all times, rarely 2, never 3 or 4 and that is the difference we are talking about. To have 4 5* players on your roster at one time, I believe you have to get your hands dirty. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Correct. However we are talking about Wisconsin. The state probably doesn't have 4 5 stars a decade. They aren't all from indiana but just 2 seasons ago we had 3. Not out of the realm with repaired instate relationships and indiana talent for Archie to get 1 more than fctc. We've had at least 2 on the roster the last 5 seasons right? None this season. MikeRoberts 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Went and got tickets for that game tomorrow. Selling them at South from 9-11 AM and 3-5 PM. I got there at 8:30 and no one was there lol. I couldn’t believe it. But yeah if anyone wants to go get tickets, those are the timesYou will have to take short vids if possible. Should be a good time. I hope to make it down for some of Romeo’s northern games. Curious to see how he looks after taking time off in the summer with the back issues. Mainly how his shot is and it’s repeatability.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosier Guy and mamasa 2 Quote
mamasa Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 The one chance I've had to see Romeo was when they played Columbus East last year, here in Columbus. Romeo had an injured finger and didn't play lol Hoosier Guy 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, mdn82 said: You will have to take short vids if possible. Should be a good time. I hope to make it down for some of Romeo’s northern games. Curious to see how he looks after taking time off in the summer with the back issues. Mainly how his shot is and it’s repeatability. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app He looked good the other night in highlights. I’ll finally have the privilege of watching him live. Gonna be crazy tomorrow night. I’ll take some video. Believe me haha mdn82 and mamasa 2 Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, mdn82 said: You will have to take short vids if possible. Should be a good time. I hope to make it down for some of Romeo’s northern games. Curious to see how he looks after taking time off in the summer with the back issues. Mainly how his shot is and it’s repeatability. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app His shot wasn't falling the other night and his exhibition I went to but it didn't look like it had to do with his back. He had good lift on his shot. He was also getting to the rim at will. His first step is insane. Sean East on their team is pretty fun to watch as well. He will get it going though and probably tomorrow night. Even his shots he missed looked good. mdn82 1 Quote
gfunk69 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Romeo?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersWho?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app mamasa 1 Quote
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