HoosierHoops1 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Brass Cannon said: He was hired 8 months ago. He's had 8 months to teach them the system. And he has on more than one occasion said the system takes 3 years to learn. That is not true. Period. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Same amount of time he's going to have for 1 and dones. Those one and dones will also benefit from having players who have played in the system. It's amazing what a little experience can do for a team. Furthermore, it'll help the players teaching the system. The biggest issues this group has is not being dogs, breaking old habits, and trusting one another. IU, under CAM, will get it going. Having uber talents in Romeo and Garland will help. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Brass Cannon Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said: That is not true. Period. What part isn't true? He was hired 8 months ago. Did he take a 6 month hiatus I missed? Quote
Brass Cannon Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Those one and dones will also benefit from having players who have played in the system. It's amazing what a little experience can do for a team. Furthermore, it'll help the players teaching the system. The biggest issues this group has is not being dogs, breaking old habits, and trusting one another. IU, under CAM, will get it going. Having uber talents in Romeo and Garland will help. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app True. I would be interested to see how often freshmen were even contributors on his past teams. Especially the last few years. Quote
BGleas Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 It doesn’t take 3 years for every individual player to learn Archie’s system, it takes 3 years to implement it into a new program from scratch. lillurk and MemphisHoosier 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 What part isn't true? He was hired 8 months ago. Did he take a 6 month hiatus I missed?If CAM had unlimited access to his players in those 8 months then I would agree with you that they should be further along but since the NCAA limits access for coaches and players during the summer then I’m afraid that saying he had 8 months to teach the players is not accurate in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app cljones1979, MemphisHoosier, Stuhoo and 3 others 6 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Uspshoosier said: If CAM had unlimited access to his players in those 8 months then I would agree with you that they should be further along but since the NCAA limits access for coaches and players during the summer then I’m afraid to say that saying he had 8 months to teach the players is not accurate in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app He has had the same amount of time he will have with 1 and dones which was my point. And these kids will still have habits that need broken. Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Uspshoosier said: If CAM had unlimited access to his players in those 8 months then I would agree with you that they should be further along but since the NCAA limits access for coaches and players during the summer then I’m afraid to say that saying he had 8 months to teach the players is not accurate in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think it's been 6 weeks as a team. Quote
mookied39 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Iugradman said: I guess you haven't been reading this thread. Other posters were discussing the coaching search and I offered my two cents. Why don't you go after them. You won't because you dislike what I wrote. That is it. Well....that is usually how it works. Quote
8bucks Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 He was hired 8 months ago. He's had 8 months to teach them the system. And he has on more than one occasion said the system takes 3 years to learn. So what are you suggesting. That you have already decided he is the wrong guy for the job? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Romeo! Langford! HoosierAloha and Milldawg12 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, 8bucks said: So what are you suggesting. That you have already decided he is the wrong guy for the job? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Not at all. Wow. That's a leap. I am wondering if he got so caught up in being able to recruit 1 and dones he hasn't asked should he. Seems more like a Bo Ryan or Jay Wright to me. If the system does take more time than usual to learn. 25-100 might be our bread and butter for recruiting. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 He has had the same amount of time he will have with 1 and dones which was my point. And these kids will still have habits that need broken. Interesting take I hadn’t thought of. I would say for next year Romeo is the only sure 1 and done he is after and since he is an instate kid he pretty much has to recruit him. I would guess when he has upperclassman in his system that know the system they will be able to help the coaches teach the young guys the system. Right now he pretty much has 13 freshman trying to learn the system in a short amount of time Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app GloryDays, Walking Boot of Doom, HoosierAloha and 2 others 5 Quote
8bucks Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Not at all. Wow. That's a leap. I am wondering if he got so caught up in being able to recruit 1 and dones he hasn't asked should he. Seems more like a Bo Ryan or Jay Wright to me. If the system does take more time than usual to learn. 25-100 might be our bread and butter for recruiting. Gotcha. Kind of the Villanova approach. I tend to think he will pursue the Arizona approach with high end players, at least initially, before coming back to that conclusion. I also am hopeful that this is a lot like Norman Dale and his Hickory team. One of the Hickory insiders, a gal name Opal Fleener, said coach Dale told her he had to "break em down then build them back up". If so hopefully this is the breaking down period. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app OliviaPope40, Iugradman, swingline91 and 2 others 5 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Spoke with Romeo Langford (@yeahyeah_22 ) and asked him to describe each of the final head coaches on his list in one word: @tedemrich IU-Archie Miller-Aggressive Vandy-Bryce Drew-Calm Kansas-Bill Self-Exciting Paul Biancardi Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners We have 18 pages arguing about the meaning of an announcement time for Garland, but no one has jumped up to over analyze this gem. patrickmorriso9, HinnyHoosier, WayneFleekHoosier and 4 others 7 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 We have 18 pages arguing about the meaning of an announcement time for Garland, but no one has jumped up to over analyze this gem. In time, boot. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Walking Boot of Doom 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, HoosierAloha said: In time, boot. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I mean, exciting?! He's clearly going to Kansas. Wouldn't be surprised if Garland puts out a new final three, replacing us with Kansas, and then co-announces with Romeo that they're a package deal for Self. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Ajwhitis Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: I mean, exciting?! He's clearly going to Kansas. Wouldn't be surprised if Garland puts out a new final three, replacing us with Kansas, and then co-announces with Romeo that they're a package deal for Self. What the hell is this overreaction Quote
goonaha Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Ajwhitis said: What the hell is this overreaction A joke. thebigweave 1 Quote
Ajwhitis Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, goonaha said: A joke. Thank god. Quote
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