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Tom Crean and RAKs

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These things are expected when you're in his position.   As much as they're cool, "feel-good," and all to be commended, he's not unique to this, and because there's a story about it, I'm a little disappointed.  People should be good to one another no matter what job they hold, and he's in a no-win position here.  Because there's a story, it "looks" like he's staging some things in order to get noticed.  I don't necessarily buy that, but looks can kill.  Knight did very similar things all the time, and nobody in the media did stories about it.   I know a guy in Martinsville whom Knight helped out of a mangled car in a wreck and rode with him to Morgan County Hospital.   I also know of dozens of kids he visited at Riley Children's Hospital, and lots of bills he paid for people.    No news story.  And what Knight did for Landon Turner even beyond the charity basketball games is the stuff of legend.

 

I guess while I think it's neat, I don't think anyone needs to be more or less patient or more or less critical.  I expect the basketball coach at Indiana to be a good guy.   And Crean is for the most part.   I just don't think he's different from, say, Tom Izzo or Rick Pitino; both of whom I know for sure are both charitable and very good to human kind.   Crean still has to win.  Consistently.

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It doesn't make me more patient with him either. He needs to win and win big at IU no matter how nice he is.

He is the face of Indiana university so yes, he needs to be mindful of his position in the community etc. however, I'm glad he is fulfilling this aspect of his responsibility as the face of the school

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It's a feel good thing, but that's about it.  I heard "but he's a nice guy" so much about Mike Davis when I was at IU and I have the same position now as I did then; he's not a good coach and that's his job.

 

My feelings on him have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.  Like Old Friend said, we should all be good to people.  Crean showing kindness won't make me say he needs more time.

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These things are expected when you're in his position. As much as they're cool, "feel-good," and all to be commended, he's not unique to this, and because there's a story about it, I'm a little disappointed. People should be good to one another no matter what job they hold, and he's in a no-win position here. Because there's a story, it "looks" like he's staging some things in order to get noticed. I don't necessarily buy that, but looks can kill. Knight did very similar things all the time, and nobody in the media did stories about it. I know a guy in Martinsville whom Knight helped out of a mangled car in a wreck and rode with him to Morgan County Hospital. I also know of dozens of kids he visited at Riley Children's Hospital, and lots of bills he paid for people. No news story. And what Knight did for Landon Turner even beyond the charity basketball games is the stuff of legend.

I guess while I think it's neat, I don't think anyone needs to be more or less patient or more or less critical. I expect the basketball coach at Indiana to be a good guy. And Crean is for the most part. I just don't think he's different from, say, Tom Izzo or Rick Pitino; both of whom I know for sure are both charitable and very good to human kind. Crean still has to win. Consistently.

This is not a fair comparison at all. When Knight was around someone couldn't take out their smartphone, snap a picture and put it on Twitter and it go viral. Anyone who has a smartphone nowadays can be a reporter. Without those posts on Twitter, this story wouldn't even exist. If you're saying since people know about these acts of kindness it takes away from it that just isn't fair. Anywhere he goes, most likely, someone's going to recognize him and share it.

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I take a modest bit of exception to Old Friend #4 using Rick Pitino as an example after he's had to openly admit he cheated on his wife.  I've no doubt he's done many good deeds in his life but I don't consider him a pillar of mankind.  Just the opinion of an old and cranky guy who's celebrating his 46th wedding anniversary today.

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I take a modest bit of exception to Old Friend #4 using Rick Pitino as an example after he's had to openly admit he cheated on his wife. I've no doubt he's done many good deeds in his life but I don't consider him a pillar of mankind. Just the opinion of an old and cranky guy who's celebrating his 46th wedding anniversary today.


Happy anniversary.

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This is not a fair comparison at all. When Knight was around someone couldn't take out their smartphone, snap a picture and put it on Twitter and it go viral. Anyone who has a smartphone nowadays can be a reporter. Without those posts on Twitter, this story wouldn't even exist. If you're saying since people know about these acts of kindness it takes away from it that just isn't fair. Anywhere he goes, most likely, someone's going to recognize him and share it.

The only thing that is different then vs now is the speed at which people could know about it.   We had telephones then, and people actually talked to each other.   Maybe it would take an extra day to find out that Knight or anyone else did something nice, but it has zero bearing on whether or not people knew or whether or not there were stories about it.   You seriously think there were no human interest stories 20 years ago because there was no Twitter?    There was a world before the internet.   Just sayin'.

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I take a modest bit of exception to Old Friend #4 using Rick Pitino as an example after he's had to openly admit he cheated on his wife.  I've no doubt he's done many good deeds in his life but I don't consider him a pillar of mankind.  Just the opinion of an old and cranky guy who's celebrating his 46th wedding anniversary today.

Happy anniversary.  He made some mistakes, but he's done a lot of good for a lot of people, too.

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The only thing that is different then vs now is the speed at which people could know about it. We had telephones then, and people actually talked to each other. Maybe it would take an extra day to find out that Knight or anyone else did something nice, but it has zero bearing on whether or not people knew or whether or not there were stories about it. You seriously think there were no human interest stories 20 years ago because there was no Twitter? There was a world before the internet. Just sayin'.

I'm just saying the likelihood of hearing something is much higher. Sure you could talk to people over the phone and in person just like now but you aren't just going to call some random number and just have a conversation out of the blue. Now you can see things from people you don't even know that you wouldn't see before.

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His coaching frustrates me sometimes too but there is no denying that Coach Crean is a good and caring person.  No one is perfect but it sure looks like he tries to put his religious faith into action which more of us need to do.  This is a part of Crean that no one really wants to talk about in this politically correct world, but it definitely helps with recruiting---especially with many parents.  It sure helped us get players like Zeller.

 

Kudos to Coach for caring about others regardless of whether others are watching or not.  We are supposed to do random acts of kindness---not to get credit for it or for ourselves----but because it's the right thing to do! Keep it up Coach Crean!

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His coaching frustrates me sometimes too but there is no denying that Coach Crean is a good and caring person. No one is perfect but it sure looks like he tries to put his religious faith into action which more of us need to do. This is a part of Crean that no one really wants to talk about in this politically correct world, but it definitely helps with recruiting---especially with many parents. It sure helped us get players like Zeller.

Kudos to Coach for caring about others regardless of whether others are watching or not. We are supposed to do random acts of kindness---not to get credit for it or for ourselves----but because it's the right thing to do! Keep it up Coach Crean!


Good post Rebel! I also like the fact our coach does good things for others no matter if the camera is on or not. I like that Crean practices what he preaches and that it's not just for show. I hate when people try to put on a false persona to make themselves look better than they truly are. Sampson was a prime example of this.

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Calipari is the biggest shadeball. Every single thing he does is an advertisement for himself and UK. Doesn't even pretend to hide it. His Twitter account is brutal to an opposing fan.


I agree about Calipari. I was just thinking about our former coach holding hands with players before games in prayer then being a cheating scumbag. He cheated at OU and he cheated here. I'm glad Crean is not all about publicity.

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