College Bball Thread

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

5 hours ago, go iu bb said:

It probably had more to do with his depending on freshmen especially when combined with those freshmen increasingly becoming good but not great. 

Not so much depending on freshmen, but the freshmen not living up to the hype. The last few years it's been BJ Boston and co(that team was horrid). TyTy Washington and lost to the mustache but they were lead by Oscar. Last year it was Cason Wallace, who was good but Livingston didn't come near the hype and the other freshmen throughout the last 3 seasons haven't come near the hype either. Same with Noel team. Same with the Randle team during the regular season. His teams at Kentucky rely on point guards. John Wall, Brandon Knight, Teague, De'Aron Fox, Ashton Hagan etc. This year's is Wagner and he definitely looks better than Devin Askew or Wheeler.

[RaceToTheTop]

On 8/18/2023 at 5:03 PM, Josh said:

Disagree!

Calipari has said the same thing and hoo boy has his team nosedived in the tourney since he started that strategy.  The stats don't back your theory up.

Link the stats instead of a Kentucky anecdote.  U Conn had three neutral court non-con games last year and one road game….and that was a 21 point laugher at Florida.

[str8baller]

10 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Link the stats instead of a Kentucky anecdote.  U Conn had three neutral court non-con games last year and one road game….and that was a 21 point laugher at Florida.

They also suffered a losing stretch in conference that saw then slip to a 4th place finish in the BE.  4/5 of the losses in that stretch were on the road. 
 

Both things can be true. Road games are a tough environment and getting some reps in can’t hurt for conference play.  
 

But the tourney is neutral site games in big arenas and coaches have tried to schedule more of those the last ten years or so to prep for season ending tourneys.   
 

But with AD budgets stretched there’s an emphasis on getting a ton of home games, often against cheap opponents, too. You can’t do them all. 

[Uspshoosier]

 

[Demo]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Jalen Coleman-Lands says that kid’s career is just getting started!

[Uspshoosier]

Happy 2 year 

[Demo]

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2023/08/25/dior-johnson-leaves-pitt-mens-basketball-program/
 

Try not to spit take with surprise, but Dior Johnson has left Pitt. That kid is a stone mess. Coaches keep trying and it keeps not happening. Guessing this was the last one. Hope the kid finds help, because most of his outcomes at this point are really bad. 

[go iu bb]

https://gbmwolverine.com/2023/08/25/michigan-basketball-insider-suggests-juwan-howard-leave-2023-24/

Trilly Donovan thinks Howard will leave UM after this upcoming season.

[Demo]

20 hours ago, Demo said:

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2023/08/25/dior-johnson-leaves-pitt-mens-basketball-program/
 

Try not to spit take with surprise, but Dior Johnson has left Pitt. That kid is a stone mess. Coaches keep trying and it keeps not happening. Guessing this was the last one. Hope the kid finds help, because most of his outcomes at this point are really bad. 

High school: 2017-18: Saugerties HS (played up as an 8th grader) 2018-19: IMG Academy (to start his high school career) 2018-19: Saugerties HS (returns after barely being at IMG) 2018-19: Findlay Prep (leaves mid year and finished the year in Nevada) 2019-20: Hillcrest Prep (his previous school ended their program) 2019-20: Fairfax (would never play for them) 2019-20: Mayfair (local California school) 2020-21: Oak Hill Academy 2020-21: Centennial Corona (ends up in Cali again, wins state title) 2021-22: Prolific Prep (powerhouse in California) 2021-22: Southern California (final stop) College: February 2020: Commits to Syracuse November 2020: Decommits from Syracuse June 2021: Commits to Oregon November 2021: Signs with Oregon June 2022: Decommits from Oregon June 2022: Commits to Pitt September 2022: Enrolls at Pitt September 2022: Involved in a domestic abuse incident October 2022: Suspended by Pitt December 2022: Returns to practice but redshirts entire season August 2023: Travels to Spain with Pitt for a foreign trip August 2023: Announced that Johnson no longer attends Pitt.

This is so nuts.

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

High school: 2017-18: Saugerties HS (played up as an 8th grader) 2018-19: IMG Academy (to start his high school career) 2018-19: Saugerties HS (returns after barely being at IMG) 2018-19: Findlay Prep (leaves mid year and finished the year in Nevada) 2019-20: Hillcrest Prep (his previous school ended their program) 2019-20: Fairfax (would never play for them) 2019-20: Mayfair (local California school) 2020-21: Oak Hill Academy 2020-21: Centennial Corona (ends up in Cali again, wins state title) 2021-22: Prolific Prep (powerhouse in California) 2021-22: Southern California (final stop) College: February 2020: Commits to Syracuse November 2020: Decommits from Syracuse June 2021: Commits to Oregon November 2021: Signs with Oregon June 2022: Decommits from Oregon June 2022: Commits to Pitt September 2022: Enrolls at Pitt September 2022: Involved in a domestic abuse incident October 2022: Suspended by Pitt December 2022: Returns to practice but redshirts entire season August 2023: Travels to Spain with Pitt for a foreign trip August 2023: Announced that Johnson no longer attends Pitt.

This is so nuts.

Dra has a role model.

[go iu bb]

33 minutes ago, Demo said:

High school: 2017-18: Saugerties HS (played up as an 8th grader) 2018-19: IMG Academy (to start his high school career) 2018-19: Saugerties HS (returns after barely being at IMG) 2018-19: Findlay Prep (leaves mid year and finished the year in Nevada) 2019-20: Hillcrest Prep (his previous school ended their program) 2019-20: Fairfax (would never play for them) 2019-20: Mayfair (local California school) 2020-21: Oak Hill Academy 2020-21: Centennial Corona (ends up in Cali again, wins state title) 2021-22: Prolific Prep (powerhouse in California) 2021-22: Southern California (final stop) College: February 2020: Commits to Syracuse November 2020: Decommits from Syracuse June 2021: Commits to Oregon November 2021: Signs with Oregon June 2022: Decommits from Oregon June 2022: Commits to Pitt September 2022: Enrolls at Pitt September 2022: Involved in a domestic abuse incident October 2022: Suspended by Pitt December 2022: Returns to practice but redshirts entire season August 2023: Travels to Spain with Pitt for a foreign trip August 2023: Announced that Johnson no longer attends Pitt.

This is so nuts.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2023/08/25/pitt-panthers-dior-johnson-leaving-program-jeff-capel-heather-lyke-acc-ncaa-college-basketball-domestic-incident/stories/202308250103

https://www.on3.com/college/pittsburgh-panthers/news/pitt-basketball-announces-freshman-dior-johnson-no-longer-attending-school/

https://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/dior-johnson-kicked-out-of-school-pitt/619545

According to those he was kicked out of Pitt but not by the coaching staff. I can't blame the school, that attack sounds pretty vicious. 

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

IUPUI announced their schedule and it's as clear a "we're going to win 4 games this season" schedule as you can get. 

Actually is pissing off the Horizon League fans with how many games don't count to the NET ranking or are with teams in the 300s like Elon and Eastern Illinois. 

[monskisprodigy]

21 hours ago, go iu bb said:

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2023/08/25/pitt-panthers-dior-johnson-leaving-program-jeff-capel-heather-lyke-acc-ncaa-college-basketball-domestic-incident/stories/202308250103

https://www.on3.com/college/pittsburgh-panthers/news/pitt-basketball-announces-freshman-dior-johnson-no-longer-attending-school/

https://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/dior-johnson-kicked-out-of-school-pitt/619545

According to those he was kicked out of Pitt but not by the coaching staff. I can't blame the school, that attack sounds pretty vicious. 

What’s confusing is, they suspended him indefinitely, he was able to plea down to misdemeanors, and then they allowed him to resume activities and return to the team. He practiced all last year and just played in their recent international games….yet all of a sudden they kick him off campus? 
 

They should have never let him back, period. Huge mistake by the university.  But they did…and Sounds like they are now kicking him out of school (not at the direction of the athletic department or coach) based on public backlash, even though there haven’t been any other recent legal issues, and he’s been with the team and in school for a year since the incident. 

For our legal board members..could he sue? They let him back into school and on the team due to some set of conditions that he must of met, he hasn’t had any legal trouble since, and they are now kicking him out of school because of public pressure, not conduct since the incident. 

 

[go iu bb]

25 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

What’s confusing is, they suspended him indefinitely, he was able to plea down to misdemeanors, and then they allowed him to resume activities and return to the team. He practiced all last year and just played in their recent international games….yet all of a sudden they kick him off campus? 
 

They should have never let him back, period. Huge mistake by the university.  But they did…and Sounds like they are now kicking him out of school (not at the direction of the athletic department or coach) based on public backlash, even though there haven’t been any other recent legal issues, and he’s been with the team and in school for a year since the incident. 

For our legal board members..could he sue? They let him back into school and on the team due to some set of conditions that he must of met, he hasn’t had any legal trouble since, and they are now kicking him out of school because of public pressure, not conduct since the incident. 

 

I think there was pressure from DV survivors who were not pleased that he received such light punishment. I can't blame them, especially since it sounds like it was a vicious incident. It probably shouldn't have been plead down to a couple of misdemeanors. He slapped the lady, punched her multiple times, and smothered her with a pillow. He was initially charged with aggravated assault, simple assault, strangulation, unlawful restraint, and false imprisonment. I'm just surprised this didn't happen sooner and it's not a good look for Capel letting him stay on the team in the first place. It just took the school longer than it should have to do the right thing. Capel thought winning was more important.

I don't feel sorry for him as I think it was deserved and that he should've gotten a stronger legal punishment. He totally exploded over being upset about getting his phone and himself wet. Such a violent reaction to something so trivial is no joke. This is likely not the first time and probably won't be the last time. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

 

 

[monskisprodigy]

6 hours ago, go iu bb said:

I think there was pressure from DV survivors who were not pleased that he received such light punishment. I can't blame them, especially since it sounds like it was a vicious incident. It probably shouldn't have been plead down to a couple of misdemeanors. He slapped the lady, punched her multiple times, and smothered her with a pillow. He was initially charged with aggravated assault, simple assault, strangulation, unlawful restraint, and false imprisonment. I'm just surprised this didn't happen sooner and it's not a good look for Capel letting him stay on the team in the first place. It just took the school longer than it should have to do the right thing. Capel thought winning was more important.

I don't feel sorry for him as I think it was deserved and that he should've gotten a stronger legal punishment. He totally exploded over being upset about getting his phone and himself wet. Such a violent reaction to something so trivial is no joke. This is likely not the first time and probably won't be the last time. 

I agree…and absolutely no sympathy here. Reading the report, it was bad. Also surprised he was able to get it plead down.

Just wild he was able to return in the first place. He should have never stepped a foot back on campus. 

But they let him return and finish his freshman year, and be involved all summer. Was just curious if he had any leg to stand on. Overall, just a Horrible look for Pitt.
 

[Demo]

If this happens Payne might as well go jump off a bridge. 

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On 8/27/2023 at 9:09 AM, IUFootballEndlessMisery said:

IUPUI announced their schedule and it's as clear a "we're going to win 4 games this season" schedule as you can get. 

Actually is pissing off the Horizon League fans with how many games don't count to the NET ranking or are with teams in the 300s like Elon and Eastern Illinois. 

4 wins would be their best season in a while.....

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

On 8/27/2023 at 6:54 PM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

 

 

And there's a school in Indianapolis that is one of them.  You may have heard of it, I think it has the Indiana University handle to it. 

A combination of lack of communication with fans and students that games are happening at most of these institutions along with virtually zero television (they're all student or local guys broadcasting games that are streamed either on ESPN+ or services you never heard of) make attending regular season games almost an impossible task. It also doesn't help that sports fans who go to these colleges will probably be rooting for either schools they followed growing up or more successful programs. 

[Demo]

The replies hilariously make his point. I despise rankings. I prefer tiers and Painter is absolutely a top tier college coach.