College Bball Thread

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He sucks as a coach.  I know many liked him here, but he wasn’t a good coach, just had some good players 

I'm not a Crean apologist but you don't develop one of the best offenses in college basketball consistently without being able to coach. It's more that he was a bad defensive coach and failed to develop sustained recruiting with depth for the next year. He would land a strong class, lose players to the NBA and overseas, with a follow-up lackluster recruiting class, and then he lost the high school coaches' respect, and the vicious circle began. 

You could certainly make the argument he's a better coach than CAM. Here's a thought, Crean was IU's third winningest coach of all time. Big 10 COY 2011-12, coached IU to wins over, among others, UK of course, twice, MSU, etc., first IU team to beat 3 top 5 teams in a season, the 2011-12 team was 2nd in the nation in 3-pt percentage (imagine that, today), same team finished 1st in the Big 10 in shooting and 3-point shooting and fg%, consistently after had IU among the top teams in scoring/shooting. He's not a really bad coach, but he's only good on one side of the ball and is too much a cheerleader on the sideline.

[HoosierX]

36 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Juwan Howard threatened to slap him if he voted for a Wisky player.

Now that is some A+ message boarding.

[HoosierX]

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I'm not a Crean apologist but you don't develop one of the best offenses in college basketball consistently without being able to coach. It's more that he was a bad defensive coach and failed to develop sustained recruiting with depth for the next year. He would land a strong class, lose players to the NBA and overseas, with a follow-up lackluster recruiting class, and then he lost the high school coaches' respect, and the vicious circle began. 

You could certainly make the argument he's a better coach than CAM. Here's a thought, Crean was IU's third winningest coach of all time. Big 10 COY 2011-12, coached IU to wins over, among others, UK of course, twice, MSU, etc., first IU team to beat 3 top 5 teams in a season, the 2011-12 team was 2nd in the nation in 3-pt percentage (imagine that, today), same team finished 1st in the Big 10 in shooting and 3-point shooting and fg%, consistently after had IU among the top teams in scoring/shooting. He's not a really bad coach, but he's only good on one side of the ball and is too much a cheerleader on the sideline.

I would take CAM over Crean in a heartbeat, simply because I wasn't embarrassed to have CAM on the sidelines. Tom Crean became a caricature of himself by the end of his time here.

[hoosierbgh]

4 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I would take CAM over Crean in a heartbeat, simply because I wasn't embarrassed to have CAM on the sidelines. Tom Crean became a caricature of himself by the end of his time here.

Crean could've coached wearing nothing but a polka-dot thong and did cartwheels on the sidelines every time the cameras were pointed his way and I would have still preferred him to Archie. That way, I would've at least enjoyed LISTENING to the games. 

[HoosierHoopster]

10 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I would take CAM over Crean in a heartbeat, simply because I wasn't embarrassed to have CAM on the sidelines. Tom Crean became a caricature of himself by the end of his time here.

A caricature who won B1G titles, took us to SW16's, had us ranked in the top 10 repeatedly and at one point as the longest #1 ranked team, brought us teams with Wat, Hulls, Oladipo, OG, Yogi, etc. He was embarrassing, like I said I'm not a Crean apologist, but I would take him any freaking day over CAM, who did nothing but create the worst offense I've ever seen an IU team run, and lose.

[HoosierX]

Just now, HoosierHoopster said:

A caricature who won B1G titles, took us to SW16's, had us ranked in the top 10 repeatedly and at one point as the longest #1 ranked team, brought us teams with Wat, Hulls, Oladipo, OG, Yogi, etc. He was embarrassing, like I said I'm not a Crean apologies, but I would take him any freaking day over CAM, who did nothing but create the worst offense I've ever seen an IU team run, and lose.

To each their own, I wasn't commenting on their accomplishments or coaching abilities. I loved Crean at the beginning, even did a speech about him (very positive one) in my business presentations class (I want to say X-104?) at IU.  Over time though, the sidelines antics, cutting down nets after a loss, the cue cards about 2-handed rebounds etc. drove me crazy. I know that stuff didn't bother everyone else as much as me, but personally I was embarrassed to have him on the sidelines. I can't prove this, but I also felt that hoky vibe was resonating outward regarding the IU program and its perception nationally.

[Uspshoosier]

Boston college up 18 with 14 min to go 

[ebridges24]

5 hours ago, Demo said:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/providence-ed-cooley-sporting-news-coach-year/h50xhraqbyiwyhi3tagcpylq
 

Not sure this is really debatable. 

Very deserving, hopefully his team does well in the tournament.

[ebridges24]

3 hours ago, IUc2016 said:

Pretty hard to argue with.

While the Big ten doesn't have any great teams, the top end talent in this league is as good as I can remember. Those 5 are ridiculously good basketball players and 3 of them will be lottery picks

helluva team

[Hovadipo]

46 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Boston college up 18 with 14 min to go 

Capel......woof.

[ebridges24]

6 hours ago, Demo said:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/providence-ed-cooley-sporting-news-coach-year/h50xhraqbyiwyhi3tagcpylq
 

Not sure this is really debatable. 

Very deserving, hopefully his team does well in the tournament.

[ebridges24]

Wisconsin's average margin of victory in the Big was 6.7 points.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

Wisconsin's average margin of victory in the Big was 6.7 points.

They had closer. They had that dude. If he's done for the season, Wisconsin is done. I said earlier this season, that team is Johnny Davis and some guys. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Yes... This was a real tweet...

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Yes... This was a real tweet...

Louisville for sure!

The next national champs? Your Louisville Cardinals.

[Uspshoosier]

23 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Capel......woof.

That buyout for the school is woof 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Yes... This was a real tweet...

I'll go with Memphis for a 1,000, Alex...

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

That buyout for the school is woof 

How and why does he have a $15 million buyout?

[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

That buyout for the school is woof 

Capel's agent......not woof!

[Hoosierfan1901]

2 Evansville dudes on Bellarmine right now. Penn and Devault are Memorial Grads