College Bball Thread

[HoosierHoops1]

14 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Funny how many people sing that tune until they’re the one that gets punched.  Then the song always changes.

I got sucker-punched by a Colorado state football player, (there were 3 of them and me) I went back to work and finished my shift, then got my 9 stitches. My tune didn't change and no one was told who it was who punched me or that there was an incident.

[IUHoosierJoe]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Because if roles were reversed no one would be saying anything about Gard. It's always about race. Black people have been treated differently in this country for the last 200 years.

I’m the first one to stand up against racial injustice, but you’re wrong on this one.  Further, making something about race when it isn’t diminishes the work that I and others do on real racial issues.  People refuse to listen to the important issues when you falsely make something like this about race.

[HoosierInParadise]

So did my post get deleted because I didn't agree with a race narrative someone else created? Wow...someone else also didn't agree with this yet their post stays.

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[HoosierHoops1]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Because if roles were reversed no one would be saying anything about Gard. It's always about race. Black people have been treated differently in this country for the last 200 years.

If Gard threw the punch, I think people would feel the same way about a punishment, and they would most certainly say something.

[monskisprodigy]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Also, do away with the handshake lines. This isn't youth sports. It's a highly competitive game and emotions run high, no reason for shaking hands

I have no issue with this. Waive, say thanks, walk off the floor. With all of the trash talking, gesturing (too small, guns after hitting threes, strong arm flex on and 1's, etc.), I'm surprised this doesn't happen more.  Physical battles with a lot of disrespect occurs on the court during those 40 minutes, and emotions can, and often do, continue to run high after the clock stops...which bleeds into the hand shake line.

I didn't realize people were so attached to the handshake line until reading comments on the twitterverse yesterday. 

[HoosierInParadise]

So did my post get deleted because I didn't agree with a race narrative someone else created? Wow...someone else also didn't agree with this yet their post stays.

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Nevermind...maybe my phone didn't refresh correctly. Sorry.

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[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

So did my post get deleted because I didn't agree with a race narrative someone else created? Wow...someone else also didn't agree with this yet their post stays.

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Agree…posts have been unhidden.

I think we are trying to not let things escalate so that no one throws any ill advised punches on this board.

So, while those posts are unhidden, let’s remember that this is the college basketball thread and keep any posts about the Michigan Wisconsin incident related to what happened during their college basketball game.

Thanks

[HoosierAloha]

10 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Howard plays his starters till the end. Then does a blow by and says “I’ll remember this ****” - that to me is the instigation. 

Gard grabbing his arm is step 2. Then after an exchange you see Gard taking steps backward away from Howard and is a good 10 feet away from Howard. 
Howard then, being held back by his own players throws a punch over their body and strikes the face of the UW assistant.

Then UM players start throwing punches

 

the Gard v Howard situation was diffused, they were separated, nothing severe taking place. Then Howard takes the situation from a 5 to a 10 for no reason

I've posted as much. They are both in the wrong and both should face suspensions proportionate to their actions. I believe some are just dismissing Gard's physical action. That's what I have been stating.

Call timeouts, cuss, fly the bird, etc. don't elevate it to physical confrontation. It's really that simple. If they would have stood there calling each other names who cares?

[HoosierInParadise]

Agree…posts have been unhidden.
I think we are trying to not let things escalate so that no one throws any ill advised punches on this board.
So, while those posts are unhidden, let’s remember that this is the college basketball thread and keep any posts about the Michigan Wisconsin incident related to what happened during their college basketball game.
Thanks

Thank you and understood. I want it to be about basketball as well which is why I said what I said in this post.

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[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

I've posted as much. They are both in the wrong and both should face suspensions proportionate to their actions. I believe some are just dismissing Gard's physical action. That's what I have been stating.

Call timeouts, cuss, fly the bird, etc. don't elevate it to physical confrontation. It's really that simple. If they would have stood there calling each other names who cares?

 

You still had the best post I’ve read about this topic.

Something about Wisconsin as usual tiptoeing all over the line, and Juwan Howard leaping over it.

[HoosierAloha]

28 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Which timeout upset Juwan Howard more?

a)  Greg Gard's

b)  Chris Webber's

[Chris007]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Agree…posts have been unhidden.

I think we are trying to not let things escalate so that no one throws any ill advised punches on this board.

So, while those posts are unhidden, let’s remember that this is the college basketball thread and keep any posts about the Michigan Wisconsin incident related to what happened during their college basketball game.

Thanks

Sorry for getting things crazy on here. I will keep it to CBB

[Josh]

33 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

What is sad to me is most people's thoughts are to automatically fire Howard and not say anything about Gard. It's so typical of society these days. The big black coach is mean and has anger issues. The white coach was kind and wanted to talk to the other coach. 

While this certainly happens in society, my initial reaction was to the original video.  In that video it appears that Howard was the aggressor who went up to Gard and started throwing hands.  

Then the second video angle showed a different scenario.  In it, Howard mouths off while trying to walk away from Gard.  Gard clearly turned the altercation into a physical one.  

For me this is more of an example of getting all the facts before jumping to conclusions rather than the skin color of the people involved.

Suspend them both.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

While this certainly happens in society, my initial reaction was to the original video.  In that video it appears that Howard was the aggressor who went up to Gard and started throwing hands.  

Then the second video angle showed a different scenario.  In it, Howard mouths off while trying to walk away from Gard.  Gard clearly turned the altercation into a physical one.  

For me this is more of an example of getting all the facts before jumping to conclusions rather than the skin color of the people involved.

Suspend them both.

As I said I'm probably overreacting with the race issue because I see it every day. You are correct. Gard suspension is a game. Howard multiple games.

[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Sorry for getting things crazy on here. I will keep it to CBB

Not very crazy at all! Just a group of people with opinions.

Thanks

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As I said I'm probably overreacting with the race issue because I see it every day. You are correct. Gard suspension is a game. Howard multiple games.

I'm ok with a few games for Gard too.  He put his hands on somebody first then went to the typical Wisconsin victim route.  Call the flop NCAA

[Chris007]

I know it's not the same but Few got a DUI and a one-game suspension. People are calling for Howard to be fired. As I said I know it is an apple to oranges comparison. 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

I'm ok with a few games for Gard too.  He put his hands on somebody first then went to the typical Wisconsin victim route.  Call the flop NCAA

And Davison!

Can we suspend Davison for a few months, errrr games?

[Uspshoosier]

42 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

 

First off it was a bush-league timeout by Gard. Your up 15 who cares if they're pressing, their not going to score 15 in 15 seconds. Teach the walk-ons how to break the press in the next 5 minutes of practice.

 

If one coaches move was bush league then so was Howard’s for pressing down 15 with 15 sec to play your not going to makeup 15 pts in 15 sec.   Teach your starters sometimes you get beat on the road.  Once the other coach decided the game wasn’t over yet then the other coach should be allowed to coach the same way and in that instant Howard chose to extend the game so Gard called timeout to reset the 10 sec count.   Howard can’t have it both ways.  Either call your team off and let them dribble it out or continue coaching and don’t worry about the other coach coaching his team 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I know it's not the same but Few got a DUI and a one-game suspension. People are calling for Howard to be fired. As I said I know it is an apple to oranges comparison. 

The people calling for Howard to be fired are outliers. Very likely that Gard gets a one game suspension and Howard gets three- five.