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College Bball Thread

By BlueDevil, in Indiana Men's Basketball

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GloryDays    6,224

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I remember a strong contingent on here that didn't believe he was good enough for IU

Yeah,me too.I was one who mentioned him as a candidate and was shot down rather quickly.
Unproven,riding on the coattails,bla bla bla.
Still think Archie was a great hire.

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mdn82    26,344

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Michigan State has an excellent football program and Duke, Kentucky, and UNC have all had success as well. If you look at places like Florida, Florida State, Miami, Wisconsin, USC, South Carolina, TCU, Clemson, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Oregon, etc.- all of those schools used football resources to build good basketball programs.

Lmfao huh? What in the hell does this have to do with IU? We are a basketball school. Football brings in more money but very few schools spend more on their basketball programs than ours. AH costs more to upkeep. Staff expenses. Cook Hall maintenance. Annual upgrades. What honestly could football provide our program than boosters already do?


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mdn82    26,344

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I don't remember anyone wanting Holtmann over Archie.  Many including myself preferred Marshall, Mack or Bennett though. 

Honestly any of us could go back through the Fire Tom Crean thread as that is where our opinions were. From January on I had Donovan and Brad Stevens tier 1. Next tier I had Mike White, Archie Miller, and Holtmann with Archie above him due to His time at Gardner Webb and being 10 games under .500 in 3 years there. At Butler he never won the conference and lost 11 games twice and 9 games once. I liked how his teams played, but knew if we got him a large portion of the fan base would have been divided with that. Made it to the sweet 16 once. Marshall I just really haven’t been a fan of him or the drama of his wife. Just feel that would have been a bad fit. He wins though. But has no ambition of leaving WSU. It’s cozy. Can’t blame him. I was definitely happy with our choice then and now. Most of the people complaining at this point wanted Marshall and just have been looking at reasons to have a told you so moment.


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Bailey7878    2,506

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The polar opposite of Holtmann at OSU is Underwood at Illinois. He has them 0-4 in conference play so far but was highly regarded coming in. I’m sure he’ll have the ship righted there soon enough. 
Maybe but Illinois seems cursed since weber

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HoosierAloha    30,102

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they weren’t suppose to be that bad the last couple of years with the talent they had but they underachieved. Holtmann is absolutely a great young coach. Bates-Diop is playing like the stud he was suppose to be his first couple years and Tate is just a upperclassman (top 100) kid that is playing like a senior should play. If Miller would of been hired by OSU people would of said IU made a mistake. If IU hired holtmann people would of said IU made a mistake. I personally think both programs are in solid hands for the long haul. If you want to be pissed because another coach at another team is having success sooner then your guy then that’s people right but don’t expect me to flip out because OSU is having a better year then IU.
Tier 1 wins: OSU 1
IU 1



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Give me Tate as a role player any day of the week. He's undersized but plays his backside off every possession. He's a competitor. He's O$U's AJ Moye. He's a great complement to Bates-Diop


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HoosierHoops1    5,024

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6 hours ago, Bailey7878 said:

What makes him so impressive is he has come into Ohio state and won without his own players.

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It's not about them not being your own players, it's about how closely they allign to the way you coach. Mike Davis is liable to have a better record with this team, but 3 years from now I think Archie will have the Hoosiers humming at his style.

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