College Bball Thread

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

51 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Against one of the worst teams in D1 (Kenpom 330) Braden Smith was 1-6 fg, 4 assists, 3 turnovers, 7 steals.

He plays with confidence, but he’s also an undersized freshman who can’t get to the rim.

I’ll take my chances with X, JHS, or for that matter, Gabe Cupps over Braden Smith.

Stu not sure if you watched or just saw the stat line …I’d you didn’t and you can stomach it try and catch their next game …watch smith run offense.  He’s very small which is tough to make up for in big ten play without being a freak athlete.  It was clear in high school I just wasn’t sure if it would translate to the big stage but he has that “it” factor , he sees things on the floor and can control the pace and flow of a game and he looks comfortable doing it at 19.  I’m sure he’ll take some lumps with bad shooting nights but if  not this year the next three he’s gonna be way worse than a Jordan bohannon to us 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

59 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Edey can be unstoppable when he catches near the basket and he looks like he’s in better shape this year, but he still moves kinda stiffly.

 

It's kind of a lost art nowadays, but teaching big men to pin a guy on the block on the weak side(and no one is just moving Edey outta the way) and for the team to notice, and actually swing the ball around for a post delivery... Purdue could get 30 ppg off just that because of how big he is. But for whatever reason, they liked throwing it to him in a lot of awkward situations. 

[Stuhoo]

2 hours ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

Stu not sure if you watched or just saw the stat line …I’d you didn’t and you can stomach it try and catch their next game …watch smith run offense.  He’s very small which is tough to make up for in big ten play without being a freak athlete.  It was clear in high school I just wasn’t sure if it would translate to the big stage but he has that “it” factor , he sees things on the floor and can control the pace and flow of a game and he looks comfortable doing it at 19.  I’m sure he’ll take some lumps with bad shooting nights but if  not this year the next three he’s gonna be way worse than a Jordan bohannon to us 

I watched.

Other than the visual and the competitiveness, I don’t see the comp.

Bohannon was an undersized two guard ala Hulls and Smith is an undersized point. That’s a very different proposition. 

 

[HoosierX]

59 minutes ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

Stu not sure if you watched or just saw the stat line …I’d you didn’t and you can stomach it try and catch their next game …watch smith run offense.  He’s very small which is tough to make up for in big ten play without being a freak athlete.  It was clear in high school I just wasn’t sure if it would translate to the big stage but he has that “it” factor , he sees things on the floor and can control the pace and flow of a game and he looks comfortable doing it at 19.  I’m sure he’ll take some lumps with bad shooting nights but if  not this year the next three he’s gonna be way worse than a Jordan bohannon to us 

I agree that he didn't look bad last night but let's see him play against a little better competition. I think he's going to get abused on defense in the Big Ten.

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Other than the visual and the competitiveness, I don’t see the comp.

Bohannon was an undersized two guard ala Hulls and Smith is an undersized point.

 

Hulls was an outstanding ball handler and would have been our primary pg if not for yogi I think that’s actually a better comp I was just trying to fit opponents mold ….those steals on the stat sheet aren’t athleticism they are from him knowing where the ball is and will go …I think as an upperclassmen he will be an aaron craft Jordan bohannon blend and he will be no fun to play against 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

2 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I agree that he didn't look bad last night but let's see him play against a little better competition. I think he's going to get abused on defense in the Big Ten.

I won’t bet my house on it yet …you’re right …part of why I watched last night was he captivated me in hs play and I wanted to see how that translates to a floor full of athletes …he will take some lumps but I think he will surprise a lot of people …painter starting him was something I certainly didn’t immediately expect 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

Hulls was an outstanding ball handler and would have been our primary pg if not for yogi I think that’s actually a better comp I was just trying to fit opponents mold ….those steals on the stat sheet aren’t athleticism they are from him knowing where the ball is and will go …I think as an upperclassmen he will be an aaron craft Jordan bohannon blend and he will be no fun to play against 

Hulls was an outstanding ball handler who was 5’11 and not super quick. Therefore he couldn’t play the point nearly as successfully as he could play the SG role.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

I won’t bet my house on it yet …you’re right …part of why I watched last night was he captivated me in hs play and I wanted to see how that translates to a floor full of athletes …he will take some lumps but I think he will surprise a lot of people …painter starting him was something I certainly didn’t immediately expect 

Painter has absolutely no choice but to start him.

His other opinions are Morton, who is not a ball handler in any way, or Jenkins, who is not a ball handler and has been erratic and not very good at bad programs.

[HoosierHoopster]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Painter has absolutely no choice but to start him.

His other opinions are Morton, who is not a ball handler in any way, or Jenkins, who is not a ball handler and has been erratic and not very good at bad programs.

Gotta love Painter's opinions!

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hulls was an outstanding ball handler who was 5’11 and not super quick. Therefore he couldn’t play the point nearly as successfully as he could play the SG role.

Agreed problem was he could defend the sg position 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

11 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They are an interesting team. Loyer and Smith both very confident players. Lacking in size but not a lot else. Great ball movement per usual. They shouldn’t be a threat but this is a Painter team I’m curious to see how it works out. Smith, Morton, Loyer starting when you have Kaufman and Furst is interesting.


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A team that could be a TEAM in two years 

[J34]

6 minutes ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

A team that could be a TEAM in two years 

IU/Butler/Notre Dame/Purdue?

[triple]

11 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

...when you have Kaufman and Furst is interesting.


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I understand why Kaufman didn't want to play for Archie, but the Purdue call was/is baffling to me.  The last Purdue forward (or big for that matter) to see any level of success in the NBA was Carl Landry...drafted 15 years ago.  Purdue makes sense for giants and others like Furst who lack the athleticism and range to make it to the league, because Painter plays to their strengths.  I wish Kaufman luck, but first redshirting and then not starting in year two?  Ouch!

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

55 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I agree that he didn't look bad last night but let's see him play against a little better competition. I think he's going to get abused on defense in the Big Ten.

He might but he definitely puts in the energy and effort. At least that's what he showed last night. He always seemed to be running and making the smart pay, which I think was expected of him anyways. He's definitely put on some weight and muscle though. He may struggle just because of the grind and B1G Rugby, but he'll be good for them. He fits what Painter wants. 

[Stuhoo]

19 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

He might but he definitely puts in the energy and effort. At least that's what he showed last night. He always seemed to be running and making the smart pay, which I think was expected of him anyways. He's definitely put on some weight and muscle though. He may struggle just because of the grind and B1G Rugby, but he'll be good for them. He fits what Painter wants. 

He won’t struggle because of B1G rugby; that’s his strength.

He may struggle because of B1G length and quickness.

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Painter has absolutely no choice but to start him.

His other opinions are Morton, who is not a ball handler in any way, or Jenkins, who is not a ball handler and has been erratic and not very good at bad programs.

I may be confusing him with someone else, but didn't Miller try to recruit Morton as a PG? It's hilarious (and typical Miller) if he can't handle the ball.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Painter has absolutely no choice but to start him.

His other opinions are Morton, who is not a ball handler in any way, or Jenkins, who is not a ball handler and has been erratic and not very good at bad programs.

Ben Allen must have been at a Purdue practice because Jenkins is out with a facial injury caused at practice. 

[go iu bb]

44 minutes ago, triple said:

I understand why Kaufman didn't want to play for Archie, but the Purdue call was/is baffling to me.  The last Purdue forward (or big for that matter) to see any level of success in the NBA was Carl Landry...drafted 15 years ago.  Purdue makes sense for giants and others like Furst who lack the athleticism and range to make it to the league, because Painter plays to their strengths.  I wish Kaufman luck, but first redshirting and then not starting in year two?  Ouch!

I admit I was pretty disappointed when Kaufman chose PU over IU. It's starting to look like he might not be as good as advertised and not as big of a miss as I thought. Instead of having an immediate impact he red shirted last year. This year he's coming off the bench and was only 8th in minutes played in their first game. He still has a lot of time to improve, but that certainly takes away the sting of missing on him.

[TheWatShot]

Is anyone else getting a bit tired of all the oohing and aahing every time Purdue looks halfway decent or somebody has a big game? Tell me they've owned us in the last 6 years without telling me they've owned us in the last 6 years. 

 

I've decided not to be a jerk and bump the posts from last November when people were afraid they would go undefeated. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

45 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I may be confusing him with someone else, but didn't Miller try to recruit Morton as a PG? It's hilarious (and typical Miller) if he can't handle the ball.

Morton had a formal IU offer.