College Bball Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,129]

 
College sports can also be a grift!
Here's a true story for y'all: Smaller D2 or lower level private colleges that have extremely high price tags for tuition offer partial tuition "scholarships" to most non-athlete students. They also offer partial athletic scholarships instead of full ones. They also have a very tough time keeping afloat with enough paid students.
So here's the grift:

• Offer a marginal player a partial athletic scholarship, similar to the non-athletic one they'd offer any decent student.
• Way, way, way overstock the roster - bring in 15 freshmen a year for the baseball or soccer squad.
• Let them all practice, but only the top 20 on varsity get to travel.
• After a year or two, once the kids have acclimated to and made friends at the school and on the team, inform about 20 kids a year that their scholarship will not be renewed, but that they are welcome to stay at the school at a reduced tuition rate.
• Generate about 100 paid tuition - regular student customers a year from various sports.

 

Well stated. My oldest son is playing college baseball in a similar scenario. He gets 20k academic scholarship, and 6k baseball so that 35k tuition becomes reasonable. He loves it and it’s a great school so we are happy as parents but your description of the scenario isn’t lost on me either. This school doesn’t do a lot of the cutting but playing time is hard to come by and the effort required are a lot, so some phase themselves out.


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[Demo 25,577]

Sounds like Billy Gillespie may be out at Tarleton St. One of the all time career flameouts.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 94,797]

ESPN story on Billy Gillespie

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46476462/sources-tarleton-state-billy-gillispie-leave-amid-inquiry

[HoosierDevils 187]

Jon Scheyer announced Jayson Tatum will be spending a lot of time with the Duke team this year as he’s rehabbing. Smart move. They had Cam Williams and Jordan Smith at Countdown to Craziness: https://x.com/bluedevilnation/status/1974280249425678588?s=46&t=Fcw6K8fSPVNFaq5-eOwH9w

Meanwhile in Arizona…Gronk crashes the scrimmage: 

https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1974338634829410604?s=46&t=Fcw6K8fSPVNFaq5-eOwH9w

[HoosierHoopster 9,155]

On 10/3/2025 at 10:33 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

ESPN story on Billy Gillespie

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46476462/sources-tarleton-state-billy-gillispie-leave-amid-inquiry

What a guy….

[LamarCheeks 22,881]

106 years. What an amazing life. 

RIP, Sister Jean ... 

[IUCrazy2 2,995]

Sounds like Leary got himself in trouble again....

https://bustednewspaper.com/indiana/leary-todd-christopher/20251009-085900/

[str8baller 8,032]

6 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

106 years. What an amazing life. 

RIP, Sister Jean ... 

One of the more unlikely college basketball “celebrities “ I can remember. 106 years is a long life! For reference she would have been an adult already for IU and Branch McCracken’s FIRST title team. In fact, she was only about 10 yrs younger than Branch. 

[Demo 25,577]

St Louis blows away Iowa in a scrimmage game at SLU today by 25. Apparently put up a hundred. Definitely more of a Schertz game than a McCollum game.

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,129]

St Louis blows away Iowa in a scrimmage game at SLU today by 25. Apparently put up a hundred. Definitely more of a Schertz game than a McCollum game.

Hmmm. Trying not to read too much into this one.


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[Hovadipo 63,181]

1 hour ago, Demo said:

St Louis blows away Iowa in a scrimmage game at SLU today by 25. Apparently put up a hundred. Definitely more of a Schertz game than a McCollum game.

I’m sure this stat is out there…I wonder what their record was against each other in their D2 days.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 94,797]

14 hours ago, Demo said:

St Louis blows away Iowa in a scrimmage game at SLU today by 25. Apparently put up a hundred. Definitely more of a Schertz game than a McCollum game.

One brief summary I saw.

Double digit win.  McCollum played lots of different lineups and put players in different positions.  Iowa's center did not play due to a hamstring injury.  Iowa 20 TOs.

[Uspshoosier 55,011]

https://kenpom.com/
 

IU starts out 40th.   
 

Last time IU finished top 25 in KenPom in a season was 2016.   

[Brass Cannon 26,278]

There’s always a lot of movement to start the season. Usually we fall off dramatically as other teams move up to take our spot. Hopefully that has changed 

[Stuhoo 92,422]

52 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

One brief summary I saw.

Double digit win.  McCollum played lots of different lineups and put players in different positions.  Iowa's center did not play due to a hamstring injury.  Iowa 20 TOs.

Didn’t think a McCollum team could play with enough tempo to commit 20 turnovers. Sheets must’ve really managed to speed them up.

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,129]

6 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://kenpom.com/
 

IU starts out 40th.   
 

Last time IU finished top 25 in KenPom in a season was 2016.   

Not ideal imo.  But you gotta start somewhere.   
 

DeVries and Admin have done well to lower the expectations on the season. 
 
Bar is back to making NCAAs.  I like DeVries.  I think he quietly super competitive.  He says in interviews, make the tournament and anything can happen. 
 

Well, that’s not entirely true.  Definitely a cut off from the contenders to the bottom tournament teams.  

Most projections put us just within or on the bubble.  Curious how patient the fanbase remains.  Football has lulled the fanbase into a sense of euphoria.  lol.  
 

I do think making the tournament as the bar is fair but the expectations need to be higher and quickly.  

[Stuhoo 92,422]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Not ideal imo.  But you gotta start somewhere.   
 

DeVries and Admin have done well to lower the expectations on the season. 
 
Bar is back to making NCAAs.  I like DeVries.  I think he quietly super competitive.  He says in interviews, make the tournament and anything can happen. 
 

Well, that’s not entirely true.  Definitely a cut off from the contenders to the bottom tournament teams.  

Most projections put us just within or on the bubble.  Curious how patient the fanbase remains.  Football has lulled the fanbase into a sense of euphoria.  lol.  
 

I do think making the tournament as the bar is fair but the expectations need to be higher and quickly.  

With football rocking, the pressure on Devries will be significantly less.

[8bucks 7,670]

42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

With football rocking, the pressure on Devries will be significantly less.

Does he lose some % of the NIL/Revenue share pot?   I would think so which could make it interesting if we can’t land kids to compete at the top of the conference let alone country 

[Stuhoo 92,422]

4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Does he lose some % of the NIL/Revenue share pot?   I would think so which could make it interesting if we can’t land kids to compete at the top of the conference let alone country 

It’s a much bigger pot, but yes

[JimmerNoe 1,234]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It’s a much bigger pot, but yes

Would think it’s a rising tide that lifts all boats scenario though. Massive influx of revenue  and interest in the Indiana athletics pot because of football would probably offset a slightly lower percentage of the pot.