The Aftermath

[Rookie33 932]

If Yogi's going on the news, it seems unlikely that a coaching change is being made now.  It better not be some sort of self-imposed tournament ban.  That'd just piss me off even more.

[JSHoosier 20,232]

IU was a topic on around the horn, and they said it was a crean problem.

He can't babysit them, so in that sense it's not.  At the same time he can punish them/hold them accountable and he's really not and hasn't, so in that sense it is.

 

Either way, as head coach it is on him as everything is.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

People in the know I take it?

Smart distinction. My phone has been blowing up the last couple of days too, but it has mostly been by idiots. You can tell they're idiots because they're friends with me. 

[Dalton26 16,892]

Smart distinction. My phone has been blowing up the last couple of days too, but it has mostly been by idiots. You can tell they're idiots because they're friends with me.

I use lol a lot but this post literally made me laugh out loud.

[2Much 165]

Some good points in this article, I think.

 

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/11/04/tom-crean-indiana-basketball-suspensions-devin-davis/

 

"Crean did this to himself, though. He set an impossibly high bar when he arrived by declaring himself the man who would exterminate a rotten culture cultivated by Sampson and replace it with one above reproach."

 

"His real mistake — and it is now six or seven years old — was selling a narrative that painted Sampson’s kids as unworthy of playing at a vaunted program like Indiana. It wasn’t that simple. They weren’t villains, just as Crean’s players aren’t always going to be heroes. This is real life."

 

"Still, Crean got rid of most of Sampson’s players and started from nothing. Through the first three years — the worst in Indiana basketball history — he repeatedly reminded fans that he was not merely coaching basketball but changing a culture."

[mamasa 15,306]

Not sure how I feel about this. Is Yogi doing a "mea culpa" for his lack of leadership or is there another (third?) shoe to drop tonight?

Either way, I bet DocLibby will be so proud of him. SMH

Enough with the knocks against Doc.

[Dalton26 16,892]

I'm not a huge doc fan myself but idk how she has anything to do with this. What mother won't support her child? Also I've never seen her say anything to the extent that she condoned what Yogi did. She was probably his biggest critic when it all happened.

[KingPG21 6,584]

Enough with the knocks against Doc.

Yeah that saying anything we regards to these guys' parents seems to be way out of line

[BlueDevil 8,687]

Yeah that saying anything we regards to these guys' parents seems to be way out of line

It really does make it hard tho with parents being affiliated. Last night was a mess.

[KingPG21 6,584]

It really does make it hard tho with parents being affiliated. Last night was a mess.

I get that. Do feel some things should be a bit of limits for talking about. 

 

Just speaking from personal experience, my dad would have kicked my ass if this stuff came out about me.

[AZ Hoosier 7,190]

He can't babysit them, so in that sense it's not.  At the same time he can punish them/hold them accountable and he's really not and hasn't, so in that sense it is.

 

Either way, as head coach it is on him as everything is.

 

Exactly. Bottom line, it’s on Crean. He has to find a way to reign these guys in. 

[BlueDevil 8,687]

I get that. Do feel some things should be a bit of limits for talking about.

Just speaking from personal experience, my dad would have kicked my ass if this stuff came out about me.

I would rather sit in jail then go home to my parents. I feel you.

[Basketball4iU 2,006]

I'm not a huge doc fan myself but idk how she has anything to do with this. What mother won't support her child? Also I've never seen her say anything to the extent that she condoned what Yogi did. She was probably his biggest critic when it all happened.

True

[AZ Hoosier 7,190]

I get that. Do feel some things should be a bit of limits for talking about. 

 

Just speaking from personal experience, my dad would have kicked my ass if this stuff came out about me.

 

Exactly. And without getting to deep or to far removed from the current issue, aren’t (weren't ) the parents somehow instrumental in the formation of these kid's attitudes? 

[Rookie33 932]

True

Any news expected in a bit, or no?

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

I'm not a huge doc fan myself but idk how she has anything to do with this. What mother won't support her child? Also I've never seen her say anything to the extent that she condoned what Yogi did. She was probably his biggest critic when it all happened.

I met Doc once at a forgettable game in 2012 when I sat next to her and Kaleb. She did not strike me as the kind of mother a kid would consider pushing around. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Yogi feared his parents finding out he'd been arrested more than his coach.

[sirhoosierlot 2,764]

Exactly. And without getting to deep or to far removed from the current issue, aren’t (weren't ) the parents somehow instrumental in the formation of these kid's attitudes? 

Easy with that shade bruh. Too much. 

[eljefe6 358]

Easy with that shade bruh. Too much.

Agree. You can lead a horse to water.... As a parent of an addict I take exception to this post

[Dalton26 16,892]

I met Doc once at a forgettable game in 2012 when I sat next to her and Kaleb. She did not strike me as the kind of mother a kid would consider pushing around. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Yogi feared his parents finding out he'd been arrested more than his coach.

I'm not surprised. She seems like the kind of parent who gives a damn and doesn't coddle her kids.

[FortWayneHoosier 6,128]

So are we still expecting bad news or was that just a rumor? I'm wondering because I just want it to come out. After the bomb last night I really think it's best to spill the beans as soon as possible