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1 hour ago, ziggyiu said:

I don't know that we did go to $20M, but let's go with that number for this exercise. 

I think it's good to keep in mind that pretty much everyone upped their budget this year. Everyone now has revenue sharing. Everyone knows the cost for players went up. 

It's really possible that even though we're at or near $20M so are a lot of other top-teir programs.

Additionally, just like the pros having spent a million more here or there doesn't constitute success. If we paid $20M and lost to a team that paid $19M is it that ig of an upset? If we beat a team that paid $21M we're we significant underdogs? 

Rabby and the Hysterics said we were going to be close to $20M.  Maybe we end up high teens.  All we can do is ballpark estimate.

While I agree budgets went up, it sure looks like ours went up a lot more than most.  Rev share is basically unchanged this year, so the difference is all NIL, an area we excel at.  The national recruiting guys are talking about huge spend for IU and few other schools are getting that kind of talk.

I'd say consensus is IU is around #5 in roster spend, maybe #5-8 to be safe.  I'm trying to be reasonable in that we're still in program build mode with a whole new roster.  Making the round of 16 seems pretty reasonable goal.

If we have a good season and get like a six seed and go down fighting to a strong team in the round of 32, that's not the end of the world.  But with this much money spent expectations sort of have to be somewhat in line with the spend, at least in my opinion.

1 hour ago, Juwan Moye said:

Thinking it is one thing, expecting it is another. I’ll be happy being back in the tourney with some fun basketball along with a good recruiting class and a chance to retain the main contributors from our current roster. That alone is a massive step in the right direction.

But then to your point, expectations should rise in year 3 where we’re a premium seed and a sweet 16 type season is a reasonable expectation.

That's certainly fine, to each their own, and I'd be lockstep with you if we only spent like $13-14M.

But with nearly $20M roster spend... I just think that changes things.  I suspect the AD has higher expectations when they gave MBB at this much money.  But I can only guess...

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I think we're a top 4 Big Ten team as is if:

Coach has the playbookk to match the skillset of the team. 

Burton stays healthy 

Harris is similar to the player he was expected to be out of high school. 

One of the freshmen is ahead of the curve and contributes when we go 4-out. 

 

We should be pretty competitive at the top of the conference. Michigan will still be tough and if Illinois figures out the point????

After that it's wide open. I think 14 conference wins is doable. 

 

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4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Bright spots and weaknesses.  It’s a roster to be excited about.  But lots of question marks remain.  
 

Shooting will also be a weakness on this team.  

Agree, but CDD system provides a lot of open shots. Lamar was the only one who could consistently hit them last year 

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I don't think shooting will be a weakness, it might not be a strength, but I think we will be middle of the road there... Harris, Lindsay, Burton, Sherrell are all more than capable shooters---

We should be significantly better in the ability to breakdown the defense off the dribble--- and way more guys who can operate in a PnR/PnP situations. 

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2 hours ago, CSP said:

I don't think shooting will be a weakness, it might not be a strength, but I think we will be middle of the road there... Harris, Lindsay, Burton, Sherrell are all more than capable shooters---

We should be significantly better in the ability to breakdown the defense off the dribble--- and way more guys who can operate in a PnR/PnP situations. 

I agree with this...I think the biggest difference on shooting is its going to be a team effort.  It won't just be counting on a Lamar to make 5-6 threes.  This years roster I think you will have several guys make 2-3 a game on decent efficiency...and I think we may have much more wide open looks because we have several players that can attack the basket and draw help, where last year we didn't have that much at all. Outside of rebounding I thought the biggest weakness of last years group was having a G who could consistently beat his man and force the D to either help or score at the basket. When Conernway was focused, for the couple of games that happened, we were a different team. 

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2 minutes ago, Gnet550 said:

I agree with this...I think the biggest difference on shooting is its going to be a team effort.  It won't just be counting on a Lamar to make 5-6 threes.  This years roster I think you will have several guys make 2-3 a game on decent efficiency...and I think we may have much more wide open looks because we have several players that can attack the basket and draw help, where last year we didn't have that much at all. Outside of rebounding I thought the biggest weakness of last years group was having a G who could consistently beat his man and for the D to either help or score at the basket. When Conernway was focused, for the couple of games that happened, we were a different team. 

Burton, Mustaf are excellent drivers... 

Also... 3pt shooting was not a STRENGTH of last year's team, at all... outside of Lamar... we shot 6.5/19.7 from 3 per game, 32.9% 

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2 minutes ago, CSP said:

Burton, Mustaf are excellent drivers... 

Also... 3pt shooting was not a STRENGTH of last year's team, at all... outside of Lamar... we shot 6.5/19.7 from 3 per game, 32.9% 

absolutely agree...last years team banked that Lamar would get hot from 3, or the percentage was very low.

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