How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[realTomCrean]

1 minute ago, Magnanimous said:

This guy feels like an AAU dad coach.

No energy, no passion. Just not a fun guy to root for 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Magnanimous said:

This guy feels like an AAU dad coach.

Ironically I don't think he ever coached Tucker on a team before college.

To me, it looks more like a career assistant still learning to be the head guy. 

[iubb]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

I'm starting to think this offseason really wouldn't be any easier even if we made the tournament. Indiana basketball just doesn't have any juice these days. After games like this, it feels damaged beyond repair. 

Well ya. Its because are a football school now. 
Like bama.  

[Jeff Flabjohns]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

You shouldn’t you are invested in a middle of the pack mediocre program that has shown you what it’s become over 20 + years.   

It’s spending on NIL and drawing fan support of a program that’s competing near the top 25. 
The inconsistency between investment (financial and fans) and the results is astounding. 

Need to find the right coach and that solves everything. In the meantime, do not increase the NIL budget for next year and give any extra to Cig.

[Asha’man]

Going to be an interesting offseason. All the talk about football school is a joke or a lot of fans. Because a lot of fans aren’t alumni and have other teams they root for. Just win. 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

It’s spending on NIL and drawing fan support of a program that’s competing near the top 25. 
We’re not Kansas State out here. The inconsistency between investment (financial and fans) and the results is astounding. 

Need to find the right coach and that solves everything. In the meantime, do not increase the NIL budget for next year and give any extra to Cig. 

If that is the case, fans should adjust their basketball expectations accordingly. 

It's still year 1... Dolson hired him, he's his guy. People still (somehow) care deeply about IUBB. 

He should try to help the coach as any AD would and a big part of that will be funds. 

Yes, we're already spending near the top. It's an arms race with no rules. You always need more. 

Football needs to eat first, obviously. But basketball needs a bigger slice of a bigger pie, if it can be had. 

Maybe that shouldn't be the case because the "right" coach would be able to win with the current resources. Even so... See the second sentence of this post. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Until DDv shows he can identify talent and elevate it throughout the year his program does not deserve more funding. It’s lighting money on fire until he shows he’s the guy. 

[JF87]

Losses at home to Nebraska, Iowa, and Northwestern should not happen.  The team has shown very little toughness. This should not happen to a team with so many seniors.  The lack of toughness falls squarely on coach Devries.   

[Uspshoosier]

7 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

It’s spending on NIL and drawing fan support of a program that’s competing near the top 25. 
We’re not Kansas State out here. The inconsistency between investment (financial and fans) and the results is astounding. 

Need to find the right coach and that solves everything. In the meantime, do not increase the NIL budget for next year and give any extra to Cig. 

Results wise IU is exactly closer to  Kansas St then they are Kansas except Kansas St has actually had  been to a couple Elite 8s in the last 20 years.    Fans can dream all they want that all they  need is money to get this program where they think that it can be.   people can sunshine pump all they want that it’s an easy fix but it’s not.  IU is a mid program.   Maybe string together 2 consecutive winning conference records and then maybe they can turn the corner.   Results say that isn’t going to happen.    Mid 

[Home Jersey]

Just now, JF87 said:

Losses at home to Nebraska, Iowa, and Northwestern should not happen.  The team has shown very little toughness. This should not happen to a team with so many seniors.  The lack of toughness falls squarely on coach Devries.   

Hilariously, I'm pretty sure people specifically said we will know this staff is different if they take care of those 3 teams at home this year. 

0/3 is brutal (even though Nebraska is downright good and Iowa is no slouch this year)

[Jeff Flabjohns]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Results wise IU is exactly closer to  Kansas St then they are Kansas except Kansas St has actually had  been to a couple Elite 8s in the last 20 years.    Fans can dream all they need is money to get this program where they think that it can be but people can sunshine pump all they want that it’s an easy fix.  IU is a mid program.   Maybe string together 2 consecutive winning conference records and then maybe they can turn the corner.   Results say that isn’t going to happen.    Mid 

You’re not hearing me. I’m saying we’re not KSU in terms of the resources we’re pumping into the program or the fan support—even though the results are far worse (Tang at least made a deep run). 

But because results continue to be that of KSU, let’s pause on flushing more money down the drain until we can feel DDv is the right guy. He should be able to get into the tournament with a 10M budget next season. If he can’t he’s not the right guy to give 15M to. 

[Ryno6284]

I truly believe this program is cursed! I don't think it matters who the coach is!

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

You’re not hearing me. I’m saying we’re not KSU in terms of the resources we’re pumping into the program or the fan support—even though the results are far worse (Tang at least made a deep run). 

But because results continue to be that of KSU, let’s pause on flushing more money down the drain until we can feel DDv is the right guy. He should be able to get into the tournament with a 10M budget next season. If he can’t he’s not the right guy to give 15M to. 

The program you are invested in is a mediocre program for basketball. It is what it is 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

If that is the case, fans should adjust their basketball expectations accordingly. 

It's still year 1... Dolson hired him, he's his guy. People still (somehow) care deeply about IUBB. 

He should try to help the coach as any AD would and a big part of that will be funds. 

Yes, we're already spending near the top. It's an arms race with no rules. You always need more. 

Football needs to eat first, obviously. But basketball needs a bigger slice of a bigger pie, if it can be had. 

Maybe that shouldn't be the case because the "right" coach would be able to win with the current resources. Even so... See the second sentence of this post. 

It’s not my money. I just hate the idea we keep lighting it on fire on coaches who don’t deserve to be operating with that kind of budget.

DDv should have made the tourney this year, he didn’t. Fine. Give him the same budget and see what he can do next season. 
Escalate his resources when he starts escalating results. 
 

There are coaches out there doing far more with less of a budget and we can’t fall @$$-backwards into hiring one.
I can’t imagine big donors will be knocking down Dolson’s door to increase the funds for next year anyway. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

The program you are invested in is a mediocre program for basketball. It is what it is 

Okay, thanks. I understand you’re probably 90% a cbb fan and 10% iu. For most of us it’s the reverse 

[spe317]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

The program you are invested in is a mediocre program for basketball. It is what it is 

I don’t understand why this isn’t widely understood and accepted. Indiana may have a great talent pool but they don’t check the boxes outside of throwing money at the program which by itself won’t change things. 
 

We are recruiting kids who are the children of parents not old enough to remember IU winning a championship 40 years ago. And the facilities are mid. 
 

Can the program evolve into a powerhouse? Sure. Absolutely. But so can dozens and dozens of other schools. 

[Home Jersey]

6 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

It’s not my money. I just hate the idea we keep lighting it on fire on coaches who don’t deserve to be operating with that kind of budget.

DDv should have made the tourney this year, he didn’t. Fine. Give him the same budget and see what he can do next season. 
Escalate his resources when he starts escalating results. 

Then expect the same results in Y1 as in Y4 and wait for 3 years until we hire the next coach, I guess? 

Football needs to eat first. You know every dollar invested with Cig is spent well. 

Still, people go crazy about IUBB. They want a better product. You gotta keep up with the market or you're hamstrung. Like you said, not my money.

Coaching needs to get better. Financial commitment needs to continue growing or you lose ground relative to others.  

[Jeff Flabjohns]

I know we are mid! We’re even worse than mid over the last decade.
 

So let’s NOT increase NIL for this program until the coach shows us he’s cut out for this job—not making the tournament with a top 25 budget is strike one. Let’s see if he can do it next year before investing further. 

[RoadRage]

IU admin think they are too good for coaches like Hoiberg or Collins and either of them would be better than what we have! Prove me wrong next season Coach DeVries….I really want to be wrong!

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Okay, thanks. I understand you’re probably 90% a cbb fan and 10% iu. For most of us it’s the reverse 

Actually  im 100% IU basketball fan and 100% cbb fan. I can just separate the 2 when IU is  a middle of the pack mid program and still enjoy the rest of college basketball when they are.   I still suffer with every game like the rest here.  It is what it is