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Regarding Drew - is Homer still around?  If so, he'd be getting up there in years and perhaps Scott would want to be closer.  Just wondering.

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16 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

Not him per se, it was an assistant that sent the threatening text. Hard to argue Scott wasn't aware of it tho, he'd been his assistant for over 15 years.

That being said, I'd take Scott in a heartbeat. I've known that family for 50 years, the eat, sleep and breathe basketball. Yes he is religious, but he also knows how to play in the gray area. The international talent pipeline they ran at Valparaiso was amazing for a small private school in NW Indiana.

That's right, I remember now thanks

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45 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

Homer is alive and well. 80 now, been cancer free for 4 years now. Still serves on the board at Valpo, but resides mostly in Arizona.

Thanks.  I guess that wouldn't factor into it then.

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56 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

Not him per se, it was an assistant that sent the threatening text. Hard to argue Scott wasn't aware of it tho, he'd been his assistant for over 15 years.

That being said, I'd take Scott in a heartbeat. I've known that family for 50 years, the eat, sleep and breathe basketball. Yes he is religious, but he also knows how to play in the gray area. The international talent pipeline they ran at Valparaiso was amazing for a small private school in NW Indiana.

I lived up in Valpo for a few years, one being the year Bryce hit the shot.  Neat little oasis up in the almost "region".  Was not uncommon to see Homer out and about in town.  Stood and chatted with him once in a post office.  

I remember when Valpo played IU and there was some story about Knight and Homer getting together before or after the game to talk and it seemed they both really enjoyed the other.  I wish I could find that article

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With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

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The only thing negative and it's not much about Drew, was how the players acted around him during the past draft. Most players hug their college coach and at least acknowledge them if they're standing next to them while being interviewed. His two guys were freshmen. 

 

I'm a religious person and certainly wouldn't hold his faith against him. 

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3 minutes ago, Demo said:

With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

As fun as coaching searches are, I'd go for the one that would be there longer.

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4 minutes ago, Demo said:

With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

I was thinking along those lines vs May and would have chosen May.  Drew has often been in my top 4 every cycle so I would go Drew too but it is closer this time.  Now if BS coached 5 years then become more of a GM/Basketball AD/Mentor to the next coach I would stay with Brad

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11 minutes ago, Demo said:

With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

I’d take Stevens 100 times out of 100 over Drew.

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2 hours ago, KYHoosier said:

Not sure I understand the Scott Drew displeasure. Is he Brad Stevens, absolutely not. Would I rather have Dusty May? Probably.

You can't argue the fact that he's won a NC, was the top 1-2 targets for both UofL and UK last cycle, and would provide us instant name recognition as HC.

We could do way worse, and we have

That's where I am. Drew's had more sustained success than Brad Stevens (since NBA experience is meaningless in NCAA as we've seen) and he won a NC at BAYLOR.

There are some nitpicks about his resume for sure and he wouldn't be my first choice, but objectively speaking, he's a good hire. Considering the moronic choices IU has made 3 of the last 4 times, possibly a great one.  

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Drew is clearly an outstanding coach.

He would clearly would be a great hire.

My enthusiasm gap? I think it’s because we’d be his second career, it wouldn’t be a great story, and his personality is kinda preachy and not my style.

But he’s clearly an excellent coach and would be a great hire (must keep repeating that).

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1 hour ago, Demo said:

With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

 

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I’d take Stevens 100 times out of 100 over Drew.

I would think any scenario where Stevens leaves for something like an equity stake in the NBA would have to be where he was considerably successful at IU. Like Coach K levels of prestige. Obviously he’s not going to win 5 titles but itd be one heckuva 5yr run here.  
 

He’d also leave and people would look at this job much differently. I would assume we could damn near pick a candidate at will. 
 

So I agree with you. With that said, I would be happy if they announced Drew as the new head coach.

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1 hour ago, Demo said:

With Drew's name surfacing, it lends itself to sort of an interesting hypothetical, at least to me. Old Fart asked in a separate conversation a while back whether given his age and his history it was reasonable to assume that even if Stevens came that he would stay long term. Wouldn't it be entirely possible, if not likely, that after a few years of getting coaching out of his system he wouldn't take an ownership stake in some NBA team and go run it? Or go do something else, he's a talented guy. So here's my question: if you had the choice would you take 4-5 years of Stevens and then you're looking again or 10-12 years of a guy like Scott Drew?  It's not a very interesting question if you're comping someone like Brownell. but Drew's a top 10 coach in CBB by pretty much any standard. Do people around here consider Stevens so good that you'd be willing to take him on a shorter term basis over an elite CBB coach? 

Easy. Drew

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36 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Drew is clearly an outstanding coach.

He would clearly would be a great hire.

My enthusiasm gap? I think it’s because we’d be his second career, it wouldn’t be a great story, and his personality is kinda preachy and not my style.

But he’s clearly an excellent coach and would be a great hire (must keep repeating that).

Another 2nd stop? Roy. KU to UNC. Worked out ok

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