IUBB vs Ruger - Thursday, 01.02.25 @ 8:30 on Peacock

[Hornsby]

I would not be stunned by anything Woodson does.

Mostly no but in this case Woodson needs wins. I bet he subs in within 5 minutes

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[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

Mostly no but in this case Woodson needs wins. I bet he subs in within 5 minutes

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If he is going to do that......then why sit him at all?  All it does is allow the potential of Reneau in foul trouble early trying to defend a 5 as well as the chance that Rutgers starts quickly.

[Hornsby]

If he is going to do that......then why sit him at all?  All it does is allow the potential of Reneau in foul trouble early trying to defend a 5 as well as the chance that Rutgers starts quickly.

To pretend he is sending a message

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[Hovadipo]

5 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Weird at this point in the year but this is really a must win game for Indiana.  Home game vs a “lesser” team should be a win and given the lack of big wins so far they cannot afford to lose tonight. I would not be surprised to see a shorter lineup. 

A win, especially a close win, does not really tell us much either. A loss though tells a lot and would likely be the precursor to the wheels falling off. 

Quoting this in the game thread. I don’t really buy into the idea I see online a lot that there can’t be a must-win game in January. Teams with this kind of dysfunction aren’t going to just suddenly turn it on late if they’re dropping games like this in January. All that to say I agree that it’s one they can’t afford to drop and there’s going to be a lot of those from here on out. 

I think a close win tells us that they haven’t phoned it in at least. You take wins however you can get them after New Year’s. 

[reconmkd]

In the parking lot, Pizza X devoured, bout time to get to walkin! Will send a weather report from my perch at the top of Mt. Crumpit, if my phone doesn't die first!

[Hoosierfanyuh]

https://x.com/briannnnf/status/1874969490502656371?s=46

[spe317]

Whoops no Harper tonight. 

[Scotty R]

Just now, spe317 said:

Whoops no Harper tonight. 

Did him and Ballo go out last night

[Hoosierfanyuh]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

Did him and Ballo go out last night

Hahahaah

[Hoosierfan1901]

Picking Martini as the bench player that goes 5-8 from the 3 in the 1st half

[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/briannnnf/status/1874969490502656371?s=46

Well that matters. 

[HoosierHoopster]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Teams that make a very low percentage of their threes should not ignore the three ball, but they shouldn't over-indulge either.

You don't want me to say "we don't have good enough 3-point shooters?" Okay, how about "we have two good three point shooters on the entire roster; Mgbako and Goode, and they are horrible (Mgbako) or very limited (Goode) defenders. And they play the same position! Therefore, they are very rarely on the court at the same time and when they are it hasn't gone well."

So in reality, we have one 'average or better' three-point shooter on the court at any given time. Every other rotational player has been a below average three point shooter in their college career, and this staff hasn't developed confident shooters or players with '1,000 shot a day work ethics' that improve from three.

On the other hand, we have three rotational players that are borderline elite near the rim; Reneau, Ballo, and Rice, and at least two of them are on the court together almost always. 

We need to shoot a reasonable amount of threes to keep defenses spread out and we're now doing that, but this team's strength is near the rim.

 

PS: Our defensive rotations, awareness, and effort have kinda sucked - that's the bigger problem.

 

No, Stu, we’re shooting at the bottom of D1 ball, low 300s, on 3’s. You think that’s a reasonable number??
No way, and it’s why we also score well towards the bottom of D1. And we do not not only have 2 guys who can shoot 3’s. Anyone who can shoot in the 30’s should be putting up a few along with Bako and Goode.

Really overlooked here is Woodson’s complete failure to instill a 3-pt offense, almost no sets or schemes for a perimeter game. The endless blaming of the players for lower shooting percentages seriously disregards the lack of sets for the perimeter game. You don’t think their percentages all around wouldn’t improve with an actual perimeter offense?? 
Stu we agree on many things, percolators aside, but man you’re disregarding this is a major Woodson failure. Replace Woodson with a modern offense running coach — even Crean — and we’d be scoring much higher and with better outside percentages. Woodson’s offense, if you call it that, is all about the front court.

[HoosierHoopster]

3 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

We are shooting a little under 20 threes per game.  Last year we shot about 16 per game.

so we are shooting more of them but still well under the national average.

Yes, more but well well well under the average, 300’s, that’s the problem 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Do we know about ballo yet?

[tyappleg]

If we lose to Rutgers without Harper, it's a fireable offense. 

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

No, Stu, we’re shooting at the bottom of D1 ball, low 300s, on 3’s. You think that’s a reasonable number??
No way, and it’s why we also score well towards the bottom of D1. And we do not not only have 2 guys who can shoot 3’s. Anyone who can shoot in the 30’s should be putting up a few along with Bako and Goode.

Really overlooked here is Woodson’s complete failure to instill a 3-pt offense, almost no sets or schemes for a perimeter game. The endless blaming of the players for lower shooting percentages seriously disregards the lack of sets for the perimeter game. You don’t think their percentages all around wouldn’t improve with an actual perimeter offense?? 
Stu we agree on many things, percolators aside, but man you’re disregarding this is a major Woodson failure. Replace Woodson with a modern offense running coach — even Crean — and we’d be scoring much higher and with better outside percentages. Woodson’s offense, if you call it that, is all about the front court.

I dunno; it’s all so depressing.

Maybe we’ll get hot and win four or five in a row!

 

[Hoosierfan1901]

Rutgers’ Beat Writer asked about Harper and they spokesperson declined to comment on his availability. 

[IUrocker]

Just now, tyappleg said:

If we lose to Rutgers without Harper, it's a fireable offense. 

Well then heck, let’s do it! Haha 

[Hornsby]

If we lose to Rutgers without Harper, it's a fireable offense. 

Talk about a massive lucky break for Woodson.

 

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[Hoosierfan1901]

Ballo is in uniform