#5 IUFB @ #2 Ohio State - 11/23/24 at Noon on FOX

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, maharkn said:

CBS has a 50% chance to make it if they lose by more than 20 need a lot to go right the rest of the day. Also probably shouldn’t have said they suck and they probably take a knee there


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F that. They suck.  Watch.  We get bounced out of the playoffs.  They lose the Big championship game.  And the team that replaced us, knocks them out in the first round.  And Ryan Day just has a punchable face.  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, IUHoosier5 said:

Cig would have done the same, so I cannot fault Day. Cig made his decision and paid the price. 

The issue I have is victory formation.   The D line wasn’t going full out so you sneak it in.  Low class. Thats how players get hurt.   I have no issue if they wanted to score and lined up mono y mono.  It’s football and you play until the end.  

[str8baller]

3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Won’t be shakier than 2-loss ND with both losses to G5 teams, being a de facto G5 team itself. Don’t care where it comes, 2-loss ND will not make it in, especially over a 1-loss B1G team. Boise should be the one that doesn’t want that scenario to play out imo. 

Disagree with that. IMO this is about TV and the ongoing realignment. They’ll think hard about letting the SEC and B1G look like they dominate everything unless it’s obvious. In the scenario where ND loses a close one to Army who gets in and beats up on USC. They’ll by far have the best win vs IU especially if AM gets in or finishes with only 3 losses. They’re also a bigger tv draw. And they allow the committee to not give the B1G 4 teams. They love the perception of being fair while acquiescing to the SEC. Look at what happened to FSU last year and they’re a big name. 
 

I’m not saying IU wouldn’t get in over ND in that scenario but I would be nervous. Similarly with Boise. They played the #1 team to the wire. We just got stomped by the #2. 2 loss power teams and one loss Cinderella are our competition now. Like to see them all go down. 
 

ESPN runs the thing and they are with the SEC. They’ll take small opportunities to sleight their competition...which is basically the big ten at this point. Worries me for IU a little if things don’t shake out right. Ole miss going down today was huge though. Likely enough. 

[DChoosier]

7 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

False. Day’s RB did the classy thing and went down at the 2-yard line to ice the game. Game over. Well played game against two good teams. Day called for them to run the score instead of taking a knee. That’s on him. And it was bad form. No ifs ands buts about it. Cig don’t call timeout. He had two. He could have. He was conceding. To score that touchdown, that’s something a competitive college coach hoping to change the culture does NOT forget about. I hope he doesn’t. P

So after we tried an onside kick  Ryan is supposed to take a knee, after we also gave up a 50 yard run, because we cried “uncle”? I don’t mind him getting that last TD. He was on a mission to make a win against  the 5th ranked team look as dominating as possible.

As far as the RB sliding at the 2. He did it so they could run clock not as a classy gesture.

[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

 

As far as the RB sliding at the 2. He did it so they could run clock not as a classy gesture.

LOL.  That is 1000% not true.

[Golfman25]

8 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

So after we tried an onside kick  Ryan is supposed to take a knee, after we also gave up a 50 yard run, because we cried “uncle”? I don’t mind him getting that last TD. He was on a mission to make a win against  the 5th ranked team look as dominating as possible.

As far as the RB sliding at the 2. He did it so they could run clock not as a classy gesture.

Not from victory formation.  That’s the problem.  

[Hovadipo]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Disagree with that. IMO this is about TV and the ongoing realignment. They’ll think hard about letting the SEC and B1G look like they dominate everything unless it’s obvious. In the scenario where ND loses a close one to Army who gets in and beats up on USC. They’ll by far have the best win vs IU especially if AM gets in or finishes with only 3 losses. They’re also a bigger tv draw. And they allow the committee to not give the B1G 4 teams. They love the perception of being fair while acquiescing to the SEC. Look at what happened to FSU last year and they’re a big name. 
 

I’m not saying IU wouldn’t get in over ND in that scenario but I would be nervous. Similarly with Boise. They played the #1 team to the wire. We just got stomped by the #2. 2 loss power teams and one loss Cinderella are our competition now. Like to see them all go down. 
 

ESPN runs the thing and they are with the SEC. They’ll take small opportunities to sleight their competition...which is basically the big ten at this point. Worries me for IU a little if things don’t shake out right. Ole miss going down today was huge though. Likely enough. 

Gotta say, I think the SEC thing is overblown unless it’s a direct B1G vs. SEC scenario. They can tip the scales to help an SEC team, but I don’t think they’d for one second consider bending the knee to Notre Dame. Playoffs will draw regardless, they have no reason to give the domers any charity. Either two losses to G5 teams (one being horrible) is a non-starter or this whole thing is a farce. 

It doesn’t hurt having Warde Manuel as the CFP chair either. Goofy as hell that we have sitting ADs making these decisions, but it may help us here. 

[Golfman25]

21 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

That bad call on movement on the OL in the 2nd quarter was a momentum killer.  Then Rourke got sacked and changed everything in the 1st half.  

But IU could not protect Rourke.  And our defensive backs out wide started to give up space to OSU's wide receivers.   If IU cannot get to the opposing QB, then the pass defense needs something else.  Talent?  Speed?  Something. 

The play calling was up and down too.  For instance, 2nd and 8 and we don't get a first down because we beat ourselves.  

This team is special.  The beat down was somewhat due to OSU hanging on to our players and not getting called.  That stuff happens on the road.  Doesn't mean that they curb-stomped IU.  

And it does not mean that IU should get hammered for playing against $$$$ and the media and a really talented team on the road in the B1G.  

We were a step slow from a sack several times.  Kind of the difference between 5 and 3 stars.   
 

For whatever reason we had a heck of a time picking up the blitz.  Looked like our players went to the wrong place several times.  

[DChoosier]

17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

LOL.  That is 1000% not true.

It is true.
He slid because he wanted to run clock and not give us the ball back immediately. No way a dude slides at the end of a 50 yard run, with roughly 2 minutes left, for any other reason.

[DChoosier]

3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: 

It doesn’t hurt having Warde Manuel as the CFP chair either. Goofy as hell that we have sitting ADs making these decisions, but it may help us here. 

I agree,

The BT wants 4 teams in the playoff every bit as the SEC wants 4. I can’t see Manuel quietly rolling over but we will see.

I know one thing and that is that I will read about the next playoff rankings, rather than watch the show, as I don’t want to to once again hear Joey Galloway go off over and over about our schedule.

[steubenhoosier]

5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

We were a step slow from a sack several times.  Kind of the difference between 5 and 3 stars.   
 

For whatever reason we had a heck of a time picking up the blitz.  Looked like our players went to the wrong place several times.  

Yep.

Kamara was pretty much invisible the entire game.

We also didn’t tackle particularly well. Again, difference in talent. Their backs would either spin out of tackles or run through them. We had guys dead to their rights and couldn’t get them on the ground 

[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Not from victory formation.  That’s the problem.  

This is the thing:  if the roles were reversed and Cignetti had done that, it's still a **** move.

And Day's explanation that the running back went down at the two to run clock and not put his defense out there again is incredibly lame because scoring there from victory formation put his defense back on the field.

[DChoosier]

1 minute ago, steubenhoosier said:

Yep.

Kamara was pretty much invisible the entire game.

We also didn’t tackle particularly well. Again, difference in talent. Their backs would either spin out of tackles or run through them. We had guys dead to their rights and couldn’t get them on the ground 

Poor tackling, couldn’t protect Rourke, OSU receivers had separation all day, dropped passes, special teams miscues etc etc.

Running game looked pretty good.

[Alford Bailey]

Still quite a talent gap but the two special teams plays killed us. Hopefully we still get in  after beating PU. Not many teams gonna get a win at OSU.

[HinnyHoosier]

7 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

No doubt Day, Howard and virtually all of O$U are classless D-bags. That's not new or unexpected. However, Cig talked the talk, gotta back it up or shut up. IU got dominated, so crying about them running it up is weak, even if true.

Only good news is they will choke when it matters. IU needs to destroy Purdoo and not get bent over like this again whoever they play after that.  

It was a bummer to wake up and see the final score. My second thought was wondering what d*** moves Day & Co made during and after the game because it's just a given. And third was that if I'm Purdoo I'm extra not looking forward to playing a pissed off CCC next week.

[Alford Bailey]

Let’s not forget $20 million was paid to land that talent

[RaceToTheTop]

I mean, I understand the argument for saying IU shouldn't get in the playoff.

That said, I 100% do not understand the argument that a team with two losses that plays in their conference championship and losses should be in the CFP.  Three loss teams shouldn't be in there -- championship games should not be a get out of jail free card if you lose.  I don't know how one team could be rewarded by getting a bye but the losing team would be given a pass for losing.

[Golfman25]

14 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

This is the thing:  if the roles were reversed and Cignetti had done that, it's still a **** move.

And Day's explanation that the running back went down at the two to run clock and not put his defense out there again is incredibly lame because scoring there from victory formation put his defense back on the field.

Here's the thing.   Day just put a "bounty" on his QB's head.  How is a team supposed to know it is a real kneel down or they are going to try something?  Can't trust him. 

[Hovadipo]

21 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I agree,

The BT wants 4 teams in the playoff every bit as the SEC wants 4. I can’t see Manuel quietly rolling over but we will see.

I know one thing and that is that I will read about the next playoff rankings, rather than watch the show, as I don’t want to to once again hear Joey Galloway go off over and over about our schedule.

Yep just said the same thing to friends earlier. That show will be awful for us this week. Unnecessary to subject myself to something that will make me that angry. 

[RoadRage]

1 hour ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

False. Day’s RB did the classy thing and went down at the 2-yard line to ice the game. Game over. Well played game against two good teams. Day called for them to run the score instead of taking a knee. That’s on him. And it was bad form. No ifs ands buts about it. Cig don’t call timeout. He had two. He could have. He was conceding. To score that touchdown, that’s something a competitive college coach hoping to change the culture does NOT forget about. I hope he doesn’t. P

Well whether we like it or not, winning margins are part of the criteria used by the CFP committee to seed teams, Ohio State could still lose a game and the margin of victory over the #5 ranked team will be beneficial to them. Doesn't really matter if Day is a D*ck or not, he's just trying to better his chances of winning a National Championship!