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41 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Personally, I think the fanbase will quickly simmer down with over confidence because they'll have two weeks to "Google" what IUFB has accomplished as a whole. I just hope they still think our defense isn't that good. But it's starting to look like they're learning. 

Both of these teams are really good. This is going to be a battle. If we're able to stop the run and execute in all three phases of the game, I really really like our chances. If it's another O$U spot 14 from the punt team type game we'll have to rely on some plays from the Football Gods.

It’s actually sort of funny their fanbase would have to google our season to find out what a year we’re having.  I live squarely in SEC country down here in Georgia, and have far and away heard more chatter about IU being a legit, fundamental football team than anything about ND. Frankly people around the country have little reason to pay attention to ND with them not being in a conference. Doesn’t help that they’re considered a joke in postseason games. Didn’t they lose like 13 straight bowl games at one point? I hope they are feeling overly confident. Because my “inside sources” Down here are already telling me they’d rather play ND than a hungry and well coached IU team. And that’s coming from fans that talk down to the Bama and Clemsons of the world regularly. 

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44 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t they lose like 13 straight bowl games at one point?

I believe they have also lost 10 or 11 straight NY6 Bowl appearances and haven’t won a NY6 Bowl since the mid 90’s.

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1 hour ago, Lebowski said:


Both of these teams are really good. This is going to be a battle. If we're able to stop the run and execute in all three phases of the game, I really really like our chances. If it's another O$U spot 14 from the punt team type game we'll have to rely on some plays from the Football Gods.

I haven't watched much ND other than most of the USC game. They looked very....solid on both sides of the ball. Certainly not spectacular. They have a RB that was pretty dynamic and a good TE, but nothing else stood out. Their D backs fly to ball, so maybe suceptible to play-action/misdirection? 

Like you said, they can't be sloppy like in Columbus. IU clearly got rattled in the 2nd & 3rd quarters and OSU is too good to give away scores. If IU plays well (not out of their minds) I think they are better than ND. 

Winning in South Bend would be incredible. 

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7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

If this is accurate…wow. Just wow. 

Large wealthy donor base.  And at least when I attended. Indiana, Chicago Area and New York were where the students came from. So nobody is distracted too much by pro football at the moment. 

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22 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

If this is accurate…wow. Just wow. 

It's not that IU fans (obviously including big dollar donors) don't care about football, it's that we haven't been given many reasons to care about football. Turnout to games has historically been pretty bad but when the team does well, attendance increases quickly. This year is a great example of that. Basically, the fanbase has just been waiting for a reason to care. If this is list is correct, it's just further evidence of that.

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Not a big "film" guy, but I know some of you are. I have a question: Did Northern Illinois do anything special in stopping Riley Leonard from running that game? Or was it so early in the year ND didn't figure it out yet that their only way to win is for him to run the ball.

Reason I ask is that he had the 2nd most pass attemps all year against them. It was also by far his worst game running the football. He was only sacked twice that game. In fact, he ran the ball 11 times which is near the most attempts he's had all year. Not a coincidence they lost that game. 

That is what this game will come down to. Can Indiana completely eliminate him from doing that. This is the kind of game I hope Indiana can score early and often...make them play without a lead. 

My magic numbers are for him to have more than 25 passes this game and less than 3 yards a carry. If that can happen, I like Indiana's chances. 

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12 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

It's not that IU fans (obviously including big dollar donors) don't care about football, it's that we haven't been given many reasons to care about football. Turnout to games has historically been pretty bad but when the team does well, attendance increases quickly. This year is a great example of that. Basically, the fanbase has just been waiting for a reason to care. If this is list is correct, it's just further evidence of that.

I don't believe that it's 100% accurate. For example, I think Oregon is probably way higher than 19th. I don't know how exactly they came up with this list, but it seems like a pretty good starting point at least. Even if we're top 20 that's pretty incredible.

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34 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Not a big "film" guy, but I know some of you are. I have a question: Did Northern Illinois do anything special in stopping Riley Leonard from running that game? Or was it so early in the year ND didn't figure it out yet that their only way to win is for him to run the ball.

Reason I ask is that he had the 2nd most pass attemps all year against them. It was also by far his worst game running the football. He was only sacked twice that game. In fact, he ran the ball 11 times which is near the most attempts he's had all year. Not a coincidence they lost that game. 

That is what this game will come down to. Can Indiana completely eliminate him from doing that. This is the kind of game I hope Indiana can score early and often...make them play without a lead. 

My magic numbers are for him to have more than 25 passes this game and less than 3 yards a carry. If that can happen, I like Indiana's chances. 

This is my biggest concern for this game as well. I think we can play with them, but we haven’t been great with mobile QBs this season that can get outside the tackles. I want to say the Northwestern game we let their QB run all over us in the first half to keep things close. I don’t know if the college systems ever use a “spy” but hopefully our staff is planning something to keep him under control. I’d hate to see us waste good coverage by letting him out of the pocket consistently for first downs when we should be getting off the field. 

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11 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

This is my biggest concern for this game as well. I think we can play with them, but we haven’t been great with mobile QBs this season that can get outside the tackles. I want to say the Northwestern game we let their QB run all over us in the first half to keep things close. I don’t know if the college systems ever use a “spy” but hopefully our staff is planning something to keep him under control. I’d hate to see us waste good coverage by letting him out of the pocket consistently for first downs when we should be getting off the field. 

We adjusted vs NW and after one drive adjusted with really great results against MSU.

I  don't remember us using a spy against either but I do remember Kamara, Carr, and Carpenter doing an outstanding job of containing after some early game challenges in doing so.

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45 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Not a big "film" guy, but I know some of you are. I have a question: Did Northern Illinois do anything special in stopping Riley Leonard from running that game? Or was it so early in the year ND didn't figure it out yet that their only way to win is for him to run the ball.

Reason I ask is that he had the 2nd most pass attemps all year against them. It was also by far his worst game running the football. He was only sacked twice that game. In fact, he ran the ball 11 times which is near the most attempts he's had all year. Not a coincidence they lost that game. 

That is what this game will come down to. Can Indiana completely eliminate him from doing that. This is the kind of game I hope Indiana can score early and often...make them play without a lead. 

My magic numbers are for him to have more than 25 passes this game and less than 3 yards a carry. If that can happen, I like Indiana's chances. 

Here's a really simple answer without watching that game again. NIU has a really good defense. According to a bunch of different metrics. If they had a remotely competent offense they would've won a MAC title. And our defense is better. These 3 sites paint the picture:

https://www.bcftoys.com/

https://collegefootballdata.com/

ESPN SP+ if you have access.

They're in our neighborhood in havoc, success rates per play/drive/etc, but we're ahead in all facets. Notre Dame hasn't seen a defense like ours all year.

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6 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Here's a really simple answer without watching that game again. NIU has a really good defense. According to a bunch of different metrics. If they had a remotely competent offense they would've won a MAC title. And our defense is better. These 3 sites paint the picture:

https://www.bcftoys.com/

https://collegefootballdata.com/

ESPN SP+ if you have access.

They're in our neighborhood in havoc, success rates per play/drive/etc, but we're ahead in all facets. Notre Dame hasn't seen a defense like ours all year.

Very true. I'd argue they haven't seen an offense either like ours. 

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24 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

This is my biggest concern for this game as well. I think we can play with them, but we haven’t been great with mobile QBs this season that can get outside the tackles. I want to say the Northwestern game we let their QB run all over us in the first half to keep things close. I don’t know if the college systems ever use a “spy” but hopefully our staff is planning something to keep him under control. I’d hate to see us waste good coverage by letting him out of the pocket consistently for first downs when we should be getting off the field. 

I'd say 10 for 29 yards or 12 for 33 yards and that is a win.

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