Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[DChoosier]

3 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

You not serious, right?

It’s the first year of a rebuild. 
Overreact much?

You totally missed my point ….LOL …which is that I find it hilarious when posts are made along the lines that they  “hope” that DD has something in mind for us in the paint.  
I stated I had zero doubt he has something planned and pointed out that we (internet warriors) clearly know it’s an issue so how in the world wouldn’t DD realize the same thing as it’s so obvious?

I’ll add a sarcasm sticker next time.

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Has anybody heard anything on Ante Brzovic, I know we reached out? His asking price may be too high.

[Henryville Hoosier]

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/report-in-what-was-gained-and-lost-indiana-transfer-haul-ranked-nation-s-best-01jsynfh2dey

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1916875233044136051?s=46
 
interesting 

Off topic- lots of Grunlohs live around here.

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[Scotty R]

2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

We shouldn't give money to younger people because they might be irresponsible? Sure some kids might blow that money just like some pro athletes blow all their money, but that's not any sort of legit reason not to pay them if someone is willing to. 

We shouldn't be paying them because they aren't worth paying all this money to them. The individual players aren't what sells but the Universities name. The old system was way more than fair and now they are ruining college sports 

[rayl456]

3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

We shouldn't be paying them because they aren't worth paying all this money to them. The individual players aren't what sells but the Universities name. The old system was way more than fair and now they are ruining college sports 

“ We have met the enemy…and he is us.”   Pogo

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

We shouldn't be paying them because they aren't worth paying all this money to them. The individual players aren't what sells but the Universities name. The old system was way more than fair and now they are ruining college sports 

The university's names don't sell if their teams are getting destroyed. Welcome to Rutger, Northwestern, and Minnesota basketball.

The perfectly legit alternate option is to give up attempting to effectively compete in big-time college football and basketball.

Are you saying that given the current state of NIL, you'd prefer that IU not pay players that are coveted enough to command a big paycheck? That is what Rutger, NW, and Minny seem to have decided, and it's not a crazy notion.

[Scotty R]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

The university's names don't sell if their teams are getting destroyed. Welcome to Rutger, Northwestern, and Minnesota basketball.

The perfectly legit alternate option is to give up attempting to effectively compete in big-time college football and basketball.

Are you saying that given the current state of NIL, you'd prefer that IU not pay players that are coveted enough to command a big paycheck? That is what Rutger, NW, and Minny seem to have decided, and it's not a crazy notion.

No I said I hate the system and college athletes shouldn't be paid. I could handle it if it was actually NIL rather than pay for pay through the collectives 

 

[steubenhoosier]

8 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

We shouldn't be paying them because they aren't worth paying all this money to them. The individual players aren't what sells but the Universities name. The old system was way more than fair and now they are ruining college sports 

So, would you work for free because your company is who draws business, not you?

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

No I said I hate the system and college athletes shouldn't be paid. I could handle it if it was actually NIL rather than pay for pay through the collectives 

 

So there are only two choices:

1. Pay a ton and get a competitive team (*especially if your coach doesn't suck).
2. Don't pay a ton and get a non-competitive team. 

Which do you prefer? "I don't like it and wish it wasn't this way!" is not one of the current choices.

[Scotty R]

4 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, would you work for free because your company is who draws business, not you?

The players never played for free since they were getting at least $50,000 + with scholarships and housing. 

I make a lot less than the CEO of my company even though I probably do more work, it is called life and it isn't fair 

[Scotty R]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

So there are only two choices:

1. Pay a ton and get a competitive team (*especially if your coach doesn't suck).
2. Don't pay a ton and get a non-competitive team. 

Which do you prefer? "I don't like it and wish it wasn't this way!" is not one of the current choices.

It makes me feeI I rather be a fan of a D2 team.

 

[steubenhoosier]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

The players never played for free since they were getting at least $50,000 + with scholarships and housing. 

I make a lot less than the CEO of my company even though I probably do more work, it is called life and it isn't fair 

So you would be happy working for a company that capped your salary? You said that the players weren’t worth the money, yet the networks shelling out millions, to broadcast these guys playing, would say otherwise.

[rayl456]

4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

It makes me feeI I rather be a fan of a D2 team.

 

“A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty heigh-ho, Silver!  The Lone Ranger!”

[Pagoda]

13 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, would you work for free because your company is who draws business, not you?

I doubt the folks that want top CBB and CFB players to take 90%+ pay cuts would react well to taking such a pay cut themselves.

These players are worth a lot and should be paid what they’re worth… simple as that.

[Hardwood83]

2 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

As much as I want to agree, setting caps, limits and rules will only force the excess back under the tables and into the shadows. And, yes, it will only get worse as we move forwards, regardless of what tact "we" take.

This is spot on. There wasn't cheating because the rules were unfair, there was cheating because the cheaters wanted an advantage. It's a lot harder to do in the current enviroment, but they'll find a way. 

[Scotty R]

Just now, steubenhoosier said:

So you would be happy working for a company that capped your salary? You said that the players weren’t worth the money, yet the networks shelling out millions, to broadcast these guys playing, would say otherwise.

They are paying to broadcast Duke, UK, Indiana and not Individual players. Players have come and gone but the the thing that stays the same is the name on the front of the jersey 

[RaceToTheTop]

14 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

It makes me feeI I rather be a fan of a D2 team.

 

Nothing is keeping you from doing that but you.

[Pagoda]

Players help build the programs.  IUBB is what is in large part because of our former great players.

B1G athletic depts bring in $120-300M in revenue per year.  90% of that is FB and MBB.  Paying kids a full ride with a small stipend is way out of market.  Players are worth what they are getting now.

To get back on topic, I’m in favor of spending more of our rich donors $ on bball players.

[Hardwood83]

6 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So you would be happy working for a company that capped your salary? You said that the players weren’t worth the money, yet the networks shelling out millions, to broadcast these guys playing, would say otherwise.

This assumes the players are employees. I suppose people should get paid for 'donating' blood too, but not everything has to be a financial transaction. However, that is an entirely different discussion for another thread. 

I think what Scotty is saying (and I agree with) is that we like traditional, amatuer college sports. Was it ever pristine? No, I know Kentucky and Alabama and plenty of other schools have been cheating for generations. But Pro sports already exist, I don't want a junior pro league that is just pretending to be associated with my favorite school.

So, I am fine with kids getting what they can, while they can and I want IU to win basketball games....but It's ok to lament that the sport we all loved, is for all intents and purposes, completely dead. The current zombie of NIL/Mega conference/Unlimited transfer 'college' sports shambles on, but it's not the real thing.