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Posted
8 minutes ago, Aaron said:

As I have said, IU better be ready to overpay for talent at key positions. If it cost 4 mil apiece for two top players you are going to have to pay it.

Unless, you want to bargain bin for another mid-major roster and miss tourney, I recommend paying crazy numbers for 2-3 stars and filling in rest.

Whether its DeVries and staff not allocating resources correctly or being NIL poor, swimming in shallow waters again will tank era whether its their fault or not.

Its time to make an offer to a star that blows them away even if its 40%-50% of your budget. Thats what starts the train. Otherwise getting talent you need wont happen.

I could care less about Estrella whether he comes to IU or not. However, IU needs to overpay for p5 level big regardless of who it is.

This is the way 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I get why he passed on the IU job, but he did pass on it to coach at Michigan.  He’s the “enemy” in the world of CBB.

I sure ain’t pulling for him because he’s an alumni.

Don't let the Howdy Doody look fool you.  He's a killer and he's going to go after a lot of our top targets and get them.  Even if he didn't necessarily need or want them.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

I imagine this is how Nebraska or MSU football fans feel about Cignetti and new the juggernaut in Bloomington

The shoe is on the other foot compared to moments like landing Hoover before he hit the portal and getting Marsh to commit and cancel his ND visit.

Not fun.  IUBB has to find some traction.

Posted

Not disastrous by any means but we need to hit at some point.  But i fear these sought after portal guys will use our offers to leverage better offers from places they may deem better at this point.  We need 8 guys.  Portal players know we are in need and will use that to their advantage.  Not a good spot to be in IMO but hopefully the staff can get some of the guys they are targeting.  

Posted
3 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Have to spend on a P4 big. Just have to. 

I'm thinking two and Burton would be a productive way to spend 10 mil. We'd still have 5 mil (just guessing) maybe more to fill the rest the roster. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

IUBB has to find some traction.

Do more with less. Or else spend big $$$. Guessing it will be a gradual program build, that won't set well with most. Trying to stay patient and see the end result of portal grab.

Posted
2 minutes ago, fwgreenway said:

Do more with less. Or else spend big $$$. Guessing it will be a gradual program build, that won't set well with most. Trying to stay patient and see the end result of portal grab.

Yep.  Would have been nice if we started the gradual build part last season.

If we do have around $13M, I think that’s a lot.

Agree, nothing to do but watch and hope.  Unless someone here works at IUBB haha.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Aaron said:

As I have said, IU better be ready to overpay for talent at key positions. If it cost 4 mil apiece for two top players you are going to have to pay it.

Unless, you want to bargain bin for another mid-major roster and miss tourney, I recommend paying crazy numbers for 2-3 stars and filling in rest.

Whether its DeVries and staff not allocating resources correctly or being NIL poor, swimming in shallow waters again will tank era whether its their fault or not.

Its time to make an offer to a star that blows them away even if its 40%-50% of your budget. Thats what starts the train. Otherwise getting talent you need wont happen.

I could care less about Estrella whether he comes to IU or not. However, IU needs to overpay for p5 level big regardless of who it is.

If Burton were to choose Houston and Estrella off the board and low/mid majors start visiting in droves, reality will be hard to swallow. 

Estrella and Bidunga as a potentially better Johnson and Mara. Who's the new Yaxel going to be? 

Posted
Just now, BA47591 said:

If Burton were to choose Houston and Estrella off the board and low/mid majors start visiting in droves, reality will be hard to swallow. 

Estrella and Bidunga as a potentially better Johnson and Mara. Who's the new Yaxel going to be? 

Juke Harris 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Yep.  Would have been nice if we started the gradual build part last season.

If we do have around $13M, I think that’s a lot.

Agree, nothing to do but watch and hope.  Unless someone here works at IUBB haha.

Indeed it would have been. We over-spent last year on a total rebuild, and will be doing the same this year... at some point we need to get a few quality guys who will come here and stay here for a couple of years to help change the culture. That has to be high on the "to do" list for both DeVries and Carr. Otherwise, we're doomed to be over-spending for the cast-offs year after year after year.

Posted
1 minute ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Yeesh. 
Cadeau, Mckenney, Morez, Estrella, Harris and their incoming 5 star is a mean top 6. They’ll have pick of the portal litter to round out that roster.

They’ll run the conference while Dusty is there. Better them than Purdue :(((

Yeah, but barely.

Posted
2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Indeed it would have been. We over-spent last year on a total rebuild, and will be doing the same this year... at some point we need to get a few quality guys who will come here and stay here for a couple of years to help change the culture. That has to be high on the "to do" list for both DeVries and Carr. Otherwise, we're doomed to be over-spending for the cast-offs year after year after year.

Would be cool to actually hit on a freshman too. Give me a guy who plays 15-20 meaningful mpg year one and steps into a bigger role year 2. Been awhiiiiile

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