They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[bigrod]

17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I'm sure that he thinks he can help. The part that burns me is that he puts minimal effort in to most of the job, but wants full credit and to be praised for the part of the job that he's actually done. And stuff like ignoring the rest of the athletic department because he thinks that it's beneath him truly irks me.

Wow, that was the perfect description of something not allowed to be discussed on this site!

[Banksyrules]

All hell is breaking loose at work today. Lots of donors and fans are demanding Hubert Davis  get canned for the sweet sixteen appearance. Different objectives I guess. 

[Chris007]

23 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

All hell is breaking loose at work today. Lots of donors and fans are demanding Hubert Davis  get canned for the sweet sixteen appearance. Different objectives I guess. 

I saw where Arizona fans were saying the same thing about Tommy Lloyd. Then Caleb Love said they weren't "true fans" Haha 

[68Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I saw where Arizona fans were saying the same thing about Tommy Lloyd. Then Caleb Love said they weren't "true fans" Haha 

So, a "true fan" is one that follows blindly to a given program and questions nothing.  Is that about, right?  ;-)

 

[Papacap]

52 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

All hell is breaking loose at work today. Lots of donors and fans are demanding Hubert Davis  get canned for the sweet sixteen appearance. Different objectives I guess. 

I live near some UNC fans and while they aren’t saying Davis should be fired, they wouldn’t be unhappy if he was. They say he can’t win the big games. Yet, they were a little surprised when I told them earlier that I wanted Woodson gone. I honestly believe it’s because it’s been so long since IU was releasing on the national scene. Why would expect better?

[hoosierbannerd]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Not to derail the thread but do you have a favorite IPA these days? I can't find anything new that I like. I'm stuck on Founders all day series mostly because I like buying 15 at a time instead of 6. 

I've heard that Woodson hates beer so for that he should be fired

 Being in Kokomo, I'm fortunate to live about 5 minutes away from our Sun King.. I'm working thru their mix of IPAs now...✌️ 

oops sorry..

FIRE Coach Pawpaw!!

[Demo]

39 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I saw where Arizona fans were saying the same thing about Tommy Lloyd. Then Caleb Love said they weren't "true fans" Haha 

If Arizona fans are complaining about Tommy Lloyd, we're not talking about "real fans", we're talking about "stupid fans".

[Hoosier DaDa]

6 hours ago, KNOBYDOX said:

If Woodson gave all the players who stayed big ataboy raises and has to over pay his picks of new players.How far will the reported 6 million go and how many scholarships will he have to leave open when he runs out of money?

Yeah I’ve been thinking we might have more open scholarships next year than we did this year.

[DChoosier]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Yeah I’ve been thinking we might have more open scholarships next year than we did this year.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we only are able to fill 10-11 spots.

What did surprise me this past season is that cash heavy, Self led Kansas only had 9 scholarship players and had a couple of games with only 7 healthy scholly players. I’m guessing that part of might be that every guy he recruits expects to be a starter. 

[BlueDevil]

4 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Not to derail the thread but do you have a favorite IPA these days? I can't find anything new that I like. I'm stuck on Founders all day series mostly because I like buying 15 at a time instead of 6. 

I've heard that Woodson hates beer so for that he should be fired

All IPAs taste like pine sol to me 

[Chris007]

Just now, BlueDevil said:

All IPAs taste like pine sol to me 

Well to you we say Fire Mike Woodson

[TTT]

These transfer portal players remind me of going on a blind date.  You meet up and get sick, or have a good time and eventually go your separate ways, or get married.

[Hoosier DaDa]

5 hours ago, JF87 said:

I'm in the fire Mike camp, but I'm going to defend him a little on buying players.  Coach Woodson is the only IU coach to operate in the NIL era.  IU and all schools are learning and adjusting to the new reality. A lot of old school fans (like me) don't like that there currently seems to be no rules governing NIL.  For many of us, building a team by being the highest bidder for a talented player still seems sleazy even though it is legal, and the NCAA has little power to rein it in. It's possible that coach Woodson is being unfairly criticized because we associate him with a new recruiting reality that we don't like.  There are several good reasons to fire Mike Woodson, but I'm not sure using NIL money to buy a team is his fault.  It's just the new reality of college basketball. 

Well he needs to buy a better team which he failed this year.  Since it is what it is let’s see if he can buy a winning team next year. I doubt that he can but since this is our new norm let’s hope 6 million isn’t squandered.

[BlueDevil]

56 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

 Being in Kokomo, I'm fortunate to live about 5 minutes away from our Sun King.. I'm working thru their mix of IPAs now...✌️ 

oops sorry..

FIRE Coach Pawpaw!!

If you haven’t, Sciene Project in Logansport is a must try. Great beer and great pizza.

[Hoosier DaDa]

5 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said:

That toxicity comes from the top.  Woodson set all that ablaze on senior day.  If he fails again there are going to be quite a few people (rightfully IMO) tap dancing on the grave of his coaching tenure here.

He can win me back, but "winning" the summer isn't going to do it and neither is a 22-12 tournament appearance next year.  He nuked the bridge with me and it is completely up to him to rebuild it by winning meaningful games over an extended period.

Hell Yeah

[hoosierbannerd]

55 minutes ago, BlueDevil said:

If you haven’t, Sciene Project in Logansport is a must try. Great beer and great pizza.

Sounds like a future road trip! thx

[JF87]

1 hour ago, DChoosier said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if we only are able to fill 10-11 spots.

What did surprise me this past season is that cash heavy, Self led Kansas only had 9 scholarship players and had a couple of games with only 7 healthy scholly players. I’m guessing that part of might be that every guy he recruits expects to be a starter. 

FYI-  KU lost a player and also was fulfilling a scholarship reduction penalty. 

NCAA rules allot KU 13 scholarships per year, but in connection with the school’s NCAA infractions case, it adopted last November a self-imposed reduction of three scholarships “to be distributed over the next three years.”

 

With the decommitment of four-star freshman combo guard Chris Johnson, which he officially announced Monday after reports over the weekend, Kansas is now down to 10 scholarship players — three below its maximum — for the 2023-24 season.

[Shooter]

8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

After getting one out-of-state five star, all four of the guards we are prioritizing (Perkins, Walker, Hickman, and Conwell) and one of the bigs (Humrichous) are born and raised in Indiana. And they're all grown-ups, not 18 year olds. 

The game has now been "professionalized." With that fact, rather than scour the country for 100% mercenaries, we apparently are focusing in a real way on players that are more likely to play for IU because of their connection to their home state.

It's the age-old discussion about whether we should give bonus points to in-state kids; in this case we apparently believe we will get a better return on recruiting investment by doing so.

 

Is there some report out there about IU and Conwell? He would absolutely be a priority target for me, but ISU is still playing and I haven't seen anything about him being in the portal.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 minute ago, Shooter said:

Is there some report out there about IU and Conwell? He would absolutely be a priority target for me, but ISU is still playing and I haven't seen anything about him being in the portal.

He is not in the portal and would be surprising if any ISU kids made that move until their season ended.

[Hoosier DaDa]

6 hours ago, JF87 said:

Coach Woodson has three assistants and Armond Hill to discuss basketball and strategize with.  Randy Wittman and I believe one other person were hired as consultants the last few years to provide input to coach Woodson.  The fact that we don't value the three-point shot and incorporate analytics into our style of play and roster construction is all on Mike Woodson.  The information has to have been provided to him, so I have to assume he just chooses to ignore it. 

Sounds like none of them are doing their job from top to bottom: QB, BoT, Dolson, Sleepy Hill, Old Bean Randy (I really loved his game back in the day), Jordy, Calbert, any 3 of the assistants, and down to the team managers hell even Martha because if Woody isn't listening to reasoning then why is he still here?  If all these people are in an uproar no job for Woody.  I'm curious to know do they all just sit back and say 6 million is going to fix it and we good. 

 

FIRE WOODSON OR RETIRE PLEASE