They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Williams was at KU for over 15 years and had already turned UNC down once before taking the job.

I said not exactly apples to apples Scotty :)

[Hoosierfan1901]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Man remember when people were unhappy with that hire at Illinois and jealous of our hire 

Interesting times…but what would Ok State look like today with Underwood?

[Scotty R]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

I said not exactly apples to apples Scotty :)

It isn't even apples to oranges

[Scotty R]

Just now, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Interesting times…but what would Ok State look like today with Underwood?

If I remember correctly wasn't OK St being investigated by the NCAA and that was a big reason for that Underwood left

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Scotty R said:

It isn't even apples to oranges

Sure it is. UNC was Roy's alma mater, IU is Dusty's.

Is that enough to amount to apples and oranges? Satisfied? Lol

[Scotty R]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Sure it is. UNC was Roy's alma mater, IU is Dusty's.

Is that enough to amount to apples and oranges? Satisfied? Lol

I am saying it is a lot different because of the amount of time Williams spent at KU compared to the one year May has spent at UM. It was easier for Williams to leave thinking he has done his job at KU and was time for Jim to go back home

[coonhounds]

I think brad Steven's is more likely than Dusty! Dusty probably has a low buyout because michigan isn't stupid and knew he was a small gamble. Given he is having success in imagine if that continues a new contract will be done by end of February early March with a much higher buyout and compensation. Iu had a chance and that was last season! Michigan basketball is a elite program and if you succeed there you will be taken care of imo. No way he throws that away to come into this mess. Mess might not describe accurately how bad our situation is

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[Solsberryberries]

If I’m the Michigan AD, I’m trying to renegotiate Dusty’s contract mid-season.  There’s a lot of angles to look at Dusty’s buyout.  Was it Dusty who wanted a low buyout or Michigan?  I’m guessing they’re going to push for a longer term contract, with more incentives with a higher buyout more comparable to what Alabama has with Oats.

Here’s to wishing that Dolson does have a “close” relationship with Dusty and some of these conversations are happening.

That said, everything I have heard is Dusty loves Michigan and has no desire to leave.  What else would he say to people back home?

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Scotty R said:

I am saying it is a lot different because of the amount of time Williams spent at KU compared to the one year May has spent at UM. It was easier for Williams to leave thinking he has done his job at KU and was time for Jim to go back home

We are agreeing Scott lol.

I started by saying it's not likely at all and ended with "never say never" ... neither of us think he's coming to IU right now. 

Just sayin, not totally impossible. Don't overthink it... the simpleton you're talking to here sure doesn't :)

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

I don’t think it’s likely (at all) that we pry May from Michigan after one year, but I wouldn’t say that it’s a complete and total long shot. Not exactly apples to apples, but Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC… so… never say never.

And there's absolutely no way we land May if we don't ask... make him say "no".

[AZ Hoosier]

47 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Michigan will give him whatever he wants assuming he has a good year. Iu will spend all it's money getting rid of the king and go cheap imo. It's the iu way.

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Dolson can negotiate the buyout down... and the max hit is $1M/year... slow, drawn out payout... or... he could offer a lump sum lower amount ($8M at $1M/year OR $3M today and we're done)... Dolson has options.

[Hoosierfan1901]

12 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

If I remember correctly wasn't OK St being investigated by the NCAA and that was a big reason for that Underwood left

I doubled checked and looks like Underwood dipped because his lead assistant was charged with bribery by the FBI. 

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think brad Steven's is more likely than Dusty! Dusty probably has a low buyout because michigan isn't stupid and knew he was a small gamble. Given he is having success in imagine if that continues a new contract will be done by end of February early March with a much higher buyout and compensation. Iu had a chance and that was last season! Michigan basketball is a elite program and if you succeed there you will be taken care of imo. No way he throws that away to come into this mess. Mess might not describe accurately how bad our situation is

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And it's possible that Dolson reaches out via back channels and gets a "handshake" agreement with May's people before Michigan can extend... no matter who are on Dolson's list, you can bet the farm that Dolson is already engaging those guys at some level.

[JSHoosier]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Woody has set a low bar so even Red Klotz (RIP) would be an upgrade.

Dale Brown would look down the sideline, see Woodson,  and realize he has a chance. 

[Hornsby]

It is really quite cruel the big ten makes the king coach a bbal game the day after new years. He should be in Vegas playing craps and smoking cigars.

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[Scotty R]

Chris Beards record

ALR 30-5

TT 18-14, 27-10, 31-7, 18-13, 18-11

UT 22-12, 7-1 and fired for domestic abuse 

Mis 20-12, 11-2

I just don't see from this record how he is a home run hire.

Take out his 30-5 at ALR he is 172-82 at a power conference school

[Eagle’s Rug]

10 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Chris Beards record

ALR 30-5

TT 18-14, 27-10, 31-7, 18-13, 18-11

UT 22-12, 7-1 and fired for domestic abuse 

Mis 20-12, 11-2

I just don't see from this record how he is a home run hire.

Take out his 30-5 at ALR he is 172-82 at a power conference school

2018 Elite 8

2019 NCAA Runner-up

[Eagle’s Rug]

47 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Dolson didn't go cheap on the football hire and have already extended more money to the program 

Not sure what cheap is.  His initial $4 mil annual pay was near the bottom of conference with only UCLA being confirmed less.  Once it was confirmed he is awesome, they made him the 3rd highest paid.

[go iu bb]

3 minutes ago, Redleader said:

Not sure what cheap is.  His initial $4 mil annual pay was near the bottom of conference with only UCLA being confirmed less.  Once it was confirmed he is awesome, they made him the 3rd highest paid.

IU hasn't gone cheap on paying their basketball coaches. I believe both Miller and Woodson were at one point in the top 10 of highest paid coaches in the nation.

[Brass Cannon]

With the modern rules it’s going to be easier to poach coaches. If you are willing to pay more you can get a guy. Used to be a coach would have to start over. Now they can just bring their team. Look at coach cig. Still taking jmu players