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Soon to RETIRE Coach Woodson Thread

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9 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

How many of you holy guys who have never made one mistake supported knight? Didn't he stuff cops in trash cans and throw plants at people to just name a few things. I have to assume you were calling for him to be fired daily?

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Was the potted plant Knight?  I thought that was Dinardo or Crean?  I think if you're an IU secretary it might be a good idea to not bring plants into the office.  

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Just now, Hornsby said:

Serious question for the holier than thou crowd. If beard is hired will you quit watching and supporting IU out of principle? I would think morally you would have too if what you say holds any water.

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Yes. I'd sit it out for a year or two until he likely implodes here, sullies the reputation of the program, and is fired for cause.

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6 minutes ago, VFury said:

Yeah, once you get to the point where your debating whether putting your hands on a student vs a woman is ok, the moral high ground argument is lost. Not to mention the awful quote about rape. Knight was not a good guy who was a great coach. And that's ok. But for many IU fans, there is such a disconnect between how we view Knight and how we view everyone else. People here would not have hired Bob Knight if they had the chance.

Knight was ultimately fired for that. Just like Beard. 
 

And after all of that nobody would hire Knight…except for programs like Texas Tech. 
 

You make the perfect argument against Beard, quite frankly. If Knight couldn’t get rehired at a major program why should the much less successful Beard?

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46 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

I'm out on the mid-season firing, though warranted. From a PR perspective & out of respect for Woodson, he needs to be forced to announce retirement before Sunday. As awful as he's been he's still a Hoosier great who does not deserve what's coming for him Sunday. The only way to avoid it or tamper the crowd is through announced retirement. Do the right thing IU

He was a Hoosier great (as a player), but he screwed that up to the tune of about $20M over 4 years plus buyout by thinking he could coach without putting in the work. No recruiting. No player development. No fundamentals. No coaching prowess. Hubris. Ego. Entitlement. Fracturing the fan base with the "true fan" crap. He needs to face the music.

His legacy is what he's made it in the past 4 years... I'd guess that half of the fanbase (or more) has no clue about his playing days.

So, Michael Dean Woodson, come on down and face the music.

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10 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Knight had anger issues. He wasn’t an alcoholic women beater. In my experience, yes the stress of the job probably exacerbated Knights issues, but he had enough runway to make it 25yrs before he did something leading up to his dismissal. 
 

Not only is alcoholic woman beater a bigger issue it is probably more likely to be triggered by elevated stressors…which again we have proof of with Beard. He last 1.5 yrs at his dream job before he flipped out. He’s a backwoods small timer coach. He can coach his balls off, but not in prime time.  
 

Even Kentucky knew better than to put him back in that position. 

Ole Miss 98, Kentucky 84.

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1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

If your girlfriend punched you during an argument would you beat the piss out of her in retaliation? 

Guessing you're single? And not by choice? 

God bless. You just can't have a convo without being personal can you? Lol 

Embarrassing. 

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1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I assume you will quit watching if beard is hired?

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I would have about as much interest as I do now with Woody or Archie or the end of Davis. Just be watching a walking disaster from afar waiting for the inevitable. 

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2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Knight was ultimately fired for that. Just like Beard. 
 

And after all of that nobody would hire Knight…except for programs like Texas Tech. 
 

You make the perfect argument against Beard, quite frankly. If Knight couldn’t get rehired at a major program why should the much less successful Beard?

I assume you remember then that many did not want him fired after that happened, because he won a lot. Knight was old when Texas Tech hired him, that's why he never went anywhere else.

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5 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Serious question for the holier than thou crowd. If beard is hired will you quit watching and supporting IU out of principle? I would think morally you would have too if what you say holds any water.

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It would make it very hard, harder than you supporting this current team and coach. I know my wife would be out 100%.

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I promise you that every one that is around the program knows that Beard wants the job. He has done everything possible to let IU know he is interested, other than holding up a hire me sign on the sideline

I’m in the camp of giving second chances. If not Stevens, I want Beard. It’s 1A and 1B and they’re pretty dang close. He can flat out coach and he is more Knight than any. 

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Just now, AH1971 said:

She snatched his glasses off of his head. He either in a drunken and/or anger rage retaliated by beating her to a pulp to the extent the police were called. There were clear and visible signs of a physical assault...so much that Beard was arrested and slapped with multiple felony charges. He was immediately suspended and then later fired. She recanted her story after the fact stating Beard acted in self-defense and the charges were ultimately dropped.  

Outside of your life being in immediate danger, there is absolutely zero reason to EVER lay your hands on another women. Zero, none, zilch. I don't care that charges were dropped. His reaction was absolutely uncalled for and should never be justified.

Beating her to a pulp. Lol ..  it was wrong, it was a mistake, idk more of the details... beating her to a pulp didn't happen. 

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The way I see it the moral superiority crowd can have any opinion it wants. But if they are really as superior as they talk they would have to quit watching and supporting iu if beard is hired. They can't have it both ways

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I'm checking out for a while. This place is not well today. DM's are open, I'll check them later. 

The way people are acting is probably the reason Beard might not be a good idea. The next coach is supposed to bring us together not divide us further. 

Really strange hill to die on defending Beard in the name of wins. 

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