Soon to RETIRE Coach Woodson Thread

[Uspshoosier 47,428]

Hey guys 

 

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4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Knight berated people and physically laid his hands on a player(s) and assaulted a cop in Puerto Rico.  Was that because of the 'pressure of a bigger job'?

Yeah, once you get to the point where your debating whether putting your hands on a student vs a woman is ok, the moral high ground argument is lost. Not to mention the awful quote about rape. Knight was not a good guy who was a great coach. And that's ok. But for many IU fans, there is such a disconnect between how we view Knight and how we view everyone else. People here would not have hired Bob Knight if they had the chance.

[Chris007 48,891]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

It 100% should matter. And then the actions that transpired immediately after that, should matter. All of it should, if we are actually interviewing him, etc etc. 

It 1000000% matters 

It is coming across that you feel too strongly about this issue. It's giving off some weird vibes

[AH1971 1,907]

22 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I.mean I feel like the people who have beard locked up in prison and guilty as sin also had the Duke lacrosse guys guilty as sin on day one. The holier than they attitude of some is unreal. And rush to judgment no matter what.

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What a terrible analogy lol. Beard wasn't falsely accused of anything. GD man be better.

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3 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Check the IP address. :D 

Harder if he is on the pirate ship.

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3 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

he obviously got out of control.  She ultimately said one of the things he did was bit her in self defense.  Only way that happened is if she had him in a really wicked headlock.  Now do we really want a coach that his fiance can get him stuck in a headlock?

Alcohol is a powerful drug.

 

[jbeaman9 1,052]

Would tomorrow be a good day for Mike Woodson to be relieved of his duties? 

[AZ Hoosier 8,432]

55 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

Show your face Kathy

Ya gotta say it 3 times:

Kathy, Kathy, Kathy!

[JF87 1,717]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The holier than thou crew knows all. I'm sure they are pure as the driven snow and have never ever ever made any mitakes in life. No dwi's. Nothing at all.

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If you have a current employee that has issues you would discipline them and try getting them assistance.  If you are hiring for a high-profile position, you are not going to hire someone from the outside that has already displayed behavior that is deemed inappropriate. Thus, Beard, Wade, Jans, and Sean Miller would have almost no chance.  IU hired someone who had prior issues in Sampson and that bit them in the rear.  That mistake won't happen again. 

[Tasmanian Devil 1,744]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hey guys 

 

Love it - well done 

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Being called holier than thou for never having been arrested and charged with DV much less ever even having the cops called to your house for such a thing is quite the take. if that’s the bar for holier than thou, consider me the Pope. 
 

[JSHoosier 20,908]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I did say that. I think he has a chance, he's down the list but saying no chance is dumb on my part. He would have to be vetted and OK'd by Whitten but there is a way to get there. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but I'm not saying there is no chance. 

I really don't see IU going down that road, which I get. If his issues were solidly behind and he looks like a changed person I could see giving him a chance, considering the nature of his issues I'm skeptical they're behind him.

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3 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

I agree. Great coach and would do well here, but just don’t see it.   Especially if Louisville and UK passed on him. 
 

I still wonder if Beard used a PR firm and addressed/admitted his mistakes, how he’s actively working daily to be a better person, etc, if that would somehow change the perception of him?

I agree on the PR stuff.  Always thought Alford (no I am not advocating for him) should have done the same.  We love a to give 2nd chances when the person seems to understand their failure and seems to be working to improve.  

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,610]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It is coming across that you feel too strongly about this issue. It's giving off some weird vibes

It's an internet forum.. absolutely nothing more.  

Weird vibes... couldn't careless 

[AH1971 1,907]

13 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No, not at all. Something definitely major went down that night.... 

It's also humanly possible that two HUMANS made mistakes that evening. 

Outside having a gun pointed at your face, I'm not sure any action warrants beating the living piss out of your girlfriend. 

Good Lord.

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3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Ya gotta say it 3 times:

Kathy, Kathy, Kathy!

Please don't. I'd rather have Beetlejuice drop in, he'd be entertaining and less condescending.

[Hornsby 2,768]

Serious question for the holier than thou crowd. If beard is hired will you quit watching and supporting IU out of principle? I would think morally you would have too if what you say holds any water.

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[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,610]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Outside having a gun pointed at your face, I'm not sure any action warrants beating the living piss out of your girlfriend. 

Good Lord.

That's absolutely not what happened lol 

[AH1971 1,907]

12 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I don't need help, my guy. You do.. judgemental ******. "flawed premise" lol.. it's question. 

If your girlfriend punched you during an argument would you beat the piss out of her in retaliation? 

Guessing you're single? And not by choice? 

[Hornsby 2,768]

Knight had anger issues. He wasn’t an alcoholic women beater. In my experience, yes the stress of the job probably exacerbated Knights issues, but he had enough runway to make it 25yrs before he did something leading up to his dismissal. 
 
Not only is alcoholic woman beater a bigger issue it is probably more likely to be triggered by elevated stressors…which again we have proof of with Beard. He last 1.5 yrs at his dream job before he flipped out. He’s a backwoods small timer coach. He can coach his balls off, but not in prime time.  
 
Even Kentucky knew better than to put him back in that position. 

I assume you will quit watching if beard is hired?

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