Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[RaceToTheTop 26,943]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Full disclosure, I’d love to have Brad Stevens on board. But more importantly, I stopped believing in ghost stories when I was 9 or 10 years. Any serious discussion involving IU’s next coach doesn’t include Brad Steven’s.

What’s funny is that you ‘don’t believe in ghost stories’ while you peddle your’s.

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6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Certainly, the ROI is in the toilet on player's salaries... and Woodson is incredibly overpaid... and there's 1944 pages of supporting documentation.

I am 100% pro-pay the players. What I took issue with, was that it was to save Woody's job when he should never have gotten a fourth season and had zero recruits. I care not that Leal and Gallo probably make like 10x their market value or who pays for it. I cared that the money bought him another season. 

I am a firm believer in chasing the dollar particularly for guys with limited professional potential beyond college. The players made business decisions that pro-woody boosters were willing to support, I do not fault the players for that. 

We were mostly pointing out you could give Woody a zillion dollar roster and it would not magically make him into a good coach, or the coach for the future at IU. So we wasted a year and the rich people wasted their money. Is what it is. 

[AH1971 1,788]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

What’s funny is that you ‘don’t believe in ghost stories’ while you peddle your’s.

What “ghost stories” have I peddled here? This ought to be good.

[LamarCheeks 19,893]

11 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Agree with you, but that wasn’t the point. It’s not our investment, so as the post I quoted suggests, “who cares?”

The "who cares" also can apply to wondering why people are getting all cranky because others complain about what players are getting through NIL. 

It's a free message board ... 

[Artie86 2,322]

30 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Why do you think I listed Otzelberger? His buyout would be a non-starter if he wanted to come to IU. He’d be cheaper than Stevens even with the buyout.

In speaking about the Great White Whale of Brad Steven’s, honestly l, don’t even think money is an issue, AT ALL , if you were to ask Dolson. He is the end of the rainbow for Dolson and most likely all IU fans, especially if we have legitimate chance to land him.

After that money may become a little more conservative, but not much if Dolson can get options #2. 

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1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

In speaking about the Great White Whale of Brad Steven’s, honestly l, don’t even think money is an issue, AT ALL , if you were to ask Dolson. He is the end of the rainbow for Dolson and most likely all IU fans, especially if we have legitimate chance to land him.

After that money may become a little more conservative, but not much if Dolson can get options #2. 

If Otzelberger isn’t option 1 or 2 then what are we even doing?

[steubenhoosier 1,174]

1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

The "who cares" also can apply to wondering why people are getting all cranky because others complain about what players are getting through NIL. 

It's a free message board ... 

I’m not cranky about it at all. I’m not happy with the performance of this team, but don’t really care how much they are getting paid. If it was my money, or the university’s for that matter, then it’s a different story. 

[Artie86 2,322]

15 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Full disclosure, I’d love to have Brad Stevens on board. But more importantly, I stopped believing in ghost stories when I was 9 or 10 years. Any serious discussion involving IU’s next coach doesn’t include Brad Steven’s.

…I believe in ghosts.

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We still talking about Brad Stevens? Lol.

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1 minute ago, steubenhoosier said:

I’m not cranky about it at all. I’m not happy with the performance of this team, but don’t really care how much they are getting paid. If it was my money, or the university’s for that matter, then it’s a different story. 

Nobody would care how much they make if they were winning. People point out the bad ROI because the product on the court is bad as a result. “Who cares?” As in… spend all the money in the world if that’s what it takes to build a winner… ain’t my money… lol. Winning cures all

[Artie86 2,322]

1 minute ago, Bowhunter said:

We still talking about Brad Stevens? Lol.

…I thought we were, but keep getting side tracked and interrupted….lol

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7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

What “ghost stories” have I peddled here? This ought to be good.

wAiT'LL yOu SeE WHo wE HirE

[LamarCheeks 19,893]

MJ just read that we went from ... 

Jerrod Calhoun is worthy of consideration to ... 

Richie Pitino just beat Calhoun by 19 at Utah State to ... 

Richie Pitino would kill it here. 

[mbredenk101 570]

…I believe in ghosts.

Santa Claus, ghosts....I'm all in.

[Artie86 2,322]

17 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

22 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

…I believe in ghosts.

Santa Claus, ghosts....I'm all in.

I am Santa Claus…………, around my grandkids. They are all totally believe I’m real with the fancy SC suit, beard, boots and glasses! Lol

[AH1971 1,788]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

wAiT'LL yOu SeE WHo wE HirE

The significance?

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4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

If Otzelberger isn’t option 1 or 2 then what are we even doing?

Otz and Stevens are like chocolate and vanilla ice cream. We’re much more likely to end up with meat and potatoes (let’s hope) or brussel sprouts and quinoa (let’s hope not). 

They are just different flavors of the same home run wish or as you call it “ghost story” lol 

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2 hours ago, monskisprodigy said:

@AH1971

You have maybe posted this, but I likely missed it in the billions pages. 

If you don't think Stevens, May, Pearl are realistic, what is your list of candidates you would like to see / that you think would have interest?

He wants Will Wade LOL!

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,013]

Man...I'm beginning to think that not even Brad Stevens can unite this fan base. We people can't even agree that there might actually be a chance you get him....geez. I'm wondering if some will actually be disappointed at the press conference when he is announced as the coach. To me, my day to day life doesn't change regardless who is hired so who care about the potential of being disappointed again? I am excited to have Brad freaking Stevens as the head coach of IU!!

 

The entire fanbase will never be fully reunited. Because some fans think other fans are racist, and that comes from both directions. (Unfortunately-the burners have made it clear they think that’s why fans are hard on Woodson). There’s also a bit of a political divide no one wants to acknowledge that plays a big factor as well. Even the Ex-players are not united in what they see and want.

 

BUT I DO KNOW THIS. Winning and having fun unites the vast majority. This is what we need. It’s always what we’ve needed.

 

I didn’t want to do the Woodson experience because I had a pretty good idea where it was headed. But I think it was a necessary step for a segment of past players and alums. Will that camp remain Indiana fans going forward? I hope so.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

wAiT'LL yOu SeE WHo wE HirE

And let’s not forget the bold proclamations about how great this year’s team would be.