Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby 2,475]

The process at this point, as it’s always been, is to evaluate and decide at season’s end. Nothing about that changed because we played poorly against Iowa or Illinois. Unless Woodson breaks whatever rules remain or has some sort of catastrophic health issue, nothing is going to happen. 

The process rocks. We must be slow and super methodical. After all that's how we landed studs like archie and Woodson. Why change what works!!! Love the process.

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[AZ Hoosier 8,017]

24 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Took a dedicated process and team to land Mike woodson. A really amazing home run get.

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No, it took a bestie on a power trip to enrich the Wizard of Broad Ripple beyond anything he could ever imagine or have earned. Nepotism. Corruption. Malfeasance. Incompetence.

[Uspshoosier 46,792]

Process is the same as it is everywhere.  Win enough games  and stay or lose a bunch and get fired.   Strip away all the other noise and it’s a case of a mediocre at best coach getting fired at the end of the year for not winning enough.    A mailman on a free message board can see that.   Don’t need to be an insider to see that  

[LamarCheeks 19,734]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As a 25-year employee, I hate to say it but you are correct in many ways. There are people who do get it, but they usually are not in decision-making positions. 

Just a random example we had this week. We have 16 student hourlies working in our department. one of their bosses decided to do something nice for them and buy them pizza during a rough day. They ordered a supreme, a veggie and a cheese pizza with pecans for the students.

Not of them ate hardly any of it. First off order 5 pizzas and make it simple like pepperoni 

Pizza with pecans -- never heard of such a thing. That's nuts (pun intended). 

[Mopladysman 442]

25 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Weren’t we told he’d already coached his last home game, even though that wasn’t in any way accurate?

Kathy, are the decision makers still preoccupied with watching reruns of the football team or did they start to pay attention?

[Hornsby 2,475]

No, it took a bestie on a power trip to enrich the Wizard of Broad Ripple beyond anything he could ever imagine or have earned. Nepotism. Corruption. Malfeasance. Incompetence.

I know that but Cathy claims it's a long and slow process. So it was a long and slow process to come up with a washed up nba assistant with zero college experience. What she says makes no sense

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[Papacap 593]

6 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

The process at this point, as it’s always been, is to evaluate and decide at season’s end. Nothing about that changed because we played poorly against Iowa or Illinois. Unless Woodson breaks whatever rules remain or has some sort of catastrophic health issue, nothing is going to happen. 

And that, my friends, is why IU basketball is simply fodder for good teams to play. Nothing like setting the bar to “don’t break the rules”. 

[Home Jersey 9,221]

After the scene of chaos and destruction that was the Illinois game, there should definitely have been talks of him being out internally after season's end at least, if not sooner. If there weren't talks about that, and as Kathy says, they will wait for end of the season to evaluate, there is a big problem and the process is too rigid. Almost like the process is broken or has a single point of failure.

How on Earth did any of us convince ourselves a change could possibly happen while Quinn Buckner is still entrenched in his role? 

[Scotty R 2,390]

13 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Thank you for the reminder that the admin has no sense of urgency around having a competent men's basketball program. 

Many of us are well on our way to occupying our time and putting our dollars elsewhere. 

At least as long as Cig is around, we'll always have football...

A serious question 

What does firing him now help with the future of this program. We won't be able to start interviewing candidates until after the season ends anyway. We can still talk to the agents of candidates through the back channels.even if Woodson is still the coach.  The only thing firing him now is to appease impatient fans.

[Artie86 2,226]

51 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

The staff has had a lot of problems with Tucker this season. Not showing up to things, being late, calling around to other schools for next season, and complaining all season about playing time. I would probably stay away from him

LOL

[Five Prime 1,114]

As a fan lurking on message boards for a decade and a half, I haven't watched a single game all year.  This is how bad the situation in Bloomington is.  Lifelong fans just don't give a **** anymore.  

[Chris007 46,614]

Just now, Scotty R said:

A serious question 

What does firing him now help with the future of this program. We won't be able to start interviewing candidates until after the season ends anyway. We can still talk to the agents of candidates through the back channels.even if Woodson is still the coach.  The only thing firing him now is to appease impatient fans.

Every year a mid-major makes a run in the tournament and as soon as they lose the next day their coach takes a job at another school. Do you think they interview on that day and take the job immediately?

[Home Jersey 9,221]

Just now, Scotty R said:

A serious question 

What does firing him now help with the future of this program. We won't be able to start interviewing candidates until after the season ends anyway. We can still talk to the agents of candidates through the back channels.even if Woodson is still the coach.  The only thing firing him now is to appease impatient fans.

Firing him now solves the immediate issue of Assembly Hall being a hostile environment for our own players and coaches. 

It commits us to the outcome of Mike Woodson being gone at the end of this season. 

It signals that IU is serious about basketball and allows them to more aggressively pursue candidates with legitimate interest.

It demonstrates the IU admin has standards they expect to meet and won't simply ignore the fans they financially rely on. 

[AH1971 1,663]

Guys---You're reading way too much into this.

All Cathy is saying is that Mike Woodson is going to coach out the remainder of the season before the university parts ways and announces a new coach hence the "official process". She's not doing anything but dispelling rumors and speculation that he's going to be replaced mid-season.

Pretty obvious. 

[TheWatShot 14,352]

2 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

A serious question 

What does firing him now help with the future of this program. We won't be able to start interviewing candidates until after the season ends anyway. We can still talk to the agents of candidates through the back channels.even if Woodson is still the coach.  The only thing firing him now is to appease impatient fans.

Mike Woodson is ruining our basketball program. Removing him now allows the healing process to begin. Keeping him through the end of the season just prolongs the inevitable and subjects the program to more embarrassment, neglect and ridicule. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,499]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Guys---You're reading way too much into this.

All Cathy is saying is that Mike Woodson is going to coach out the remainder of the season before the university parts ways and announces a new coach hence the "official process". She's not doing anything but dispelling rumors and speculation that he's going to be replaced mid-season.

Pretty obvious. 

yeah that's the issue

[AH1971 1,663]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Every year a mid-major makes a run in the tournament and as soon as they lose the next day their coach takes a job at another school. Do you think they interview on that day and take the job immediately?

The "official process" of removing Mike Woodson and announcing his replacement has nothing to do with backchanneling and sourcing potential candidates in the meantime. 

[Mopladysman 442]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Guys---You're reading way too much into this.

All Cathy is saying is that Mike Woodson is going to coach out the remainder of the season before the university parts ways and announces a new coach hence the "official process". She's not doing anything but dispelling rumors and speculation that he's going to be replaced mid-season.

Pretty obvious. 

Apparently she doesn’t know about the boner pills.

[AH1971 1,663]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

yeah that's the issue

What's the issue? She's all but telling you that Mike Woodson is gone after this season. 

That's what everybody wants correct?

[Scotty R 2,390]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Every year a mid-major makes a run in the tournament and as soon as they lose the next day their coach takes a job at another school. Do you think they interview on that day and take the job immediately?

I said there is back channel talks and we can still do that even if we don't fire Woodson mid season. Still didn't answer my question of what good does it do IU to fire him mid season