Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[OKHOOSIER 2,605]

5 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

I'm not a staunch Crean defender...but I do think he gets a bad wrap for how things ended for him in Geogia when looking at his overall career. Not saying he is a great coach, but definitely not a bad one. 

He won 400+ games as a Head Coach. At Marquette he won 70% of his games the final 7 years, took them to the tourney 5 times and made a final four. Came to IU and went from walk on's year 1 to the #1 team in the country in year 5. Won multiple big ten championships, was named national and big ten coach of the year, took us to three sweet 16's and is third in all time wins at IU. I remember pulling my hair out with the defense, but his offenses were fun to watch. 

Where we have been since him...I'd take a couple big ten titles, fun offenses and sweet 16 runs.  

Yes he won 400 games as a head coach. He also lost over 300. This is sorta what I meant when I said rose colored glasses. I’d take Crean 10/10 over woody though lol

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24 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Yes he won 400 games as a head coach. He also lost over 300. This is sorta what I meant when I said rose colored glasses. I’d take Crean 10/10 over woody though lol

This is true...57% win percentage over his career. The early years at IU and going 47-75 at Georgia definitely didn't help that for him haha.

I still can't help but look at Sampson and wonder what could have been...

[Brass Cannon 24,879]

10 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

This is true...57% win percentage over his career. The early years at IU and going 47-75 at Georgia definitely didn't help that for him haha.

I still can't help but look at Sampson and wonder what could have been...

Banner 6 almost certainly. We have crazy good resources now. Can’t imagine what NIL resources Sampson would be working with had the administration not been strangling the fanbase for the last 18 years 

[Golfman25 5,595]

48 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

I'm not a staunch Crean defender...but I do think he gets a bad wrap for how things ended for him in Georgia when looking at his overall career. Not saying he is a great coach, but definitely not a bad one. 

He won 400+ games as a Head Coach. At Marquette he won 70% of his games the final 7 years, took them to the tourney 5 times and made a final four. Came to IU and went from walk on's year 1 to the #1 team in the country in year 5. Won multiple big ten championships, was named national and big ten coach of the year, took us to three sweet 16's and is third in all time wins at IU. I remember pulling my hair out with the defense, but his offenses were fun to watch. 

Where we have been since him...I'd take a couple big ten titles, fun offenses and sweet 16 runs.  

I completely respect Crean for coming to the chitshow when he did.  Like you said, in 5 years he turned it completely around (before portal and NIL).  But he failed to sustain and was let go.  That's fair enough.  We were obviously, hoping the next guy could build on the foundation he set up.  The next guy didn't.  The the now guy isn't doing it either.  Hopefully the next guy can.  

 

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1 hour ago, realTomCrean said:

A slow Friday before playing no-name state.. Crean, Archie, Woody. Rank them. Go!

1. Crean

2. Archie

3. Woody 

Ouch

[LamarCheeks 19,250]

1 hour ago, realTomCrean said:

A slow Friday before playing no-name state.. Crean, Archie, Woody. Rank them. Go!

 

1. Moe

2. Larry

3. Curly 

[coonhounds 9,133]

A slow Friday before playing no-name state.. Crean, Archie, Woody. Rank them. Go!
1. Crean
2. Archie
3. Woody 

Crean
Woodson
Archie.
Woodson will probably fall below miller for me though by the end of this season. I can see him completely destroying the program

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5 hours ago, ap2345 said:

Hahahahahahaha! That’s hilarious!
 

He’s not even the King of Bloomington! lololol

[AZ Hoosier 7,391]

2 hours ago, realTomCrean said:

A slow Friday before playing no-name state.. Crean, Archie, Woody. Rank them. Go!

1. Crean

2. Archie

3. Woody 

That's a fools errand if ever there was one. Might give you a nickel for Crean's ability... not a penny for the others. Indiana basketball needs a real coach. Woodson ain't it. Never was.

[HoosierTrav 7,898]

2 hours ago, realTomCrean said:

A slow Friday before playing no-name state.. Crean, Archie, Woody. Rank them. Go!

1. Crean

2. Archie

3. Woody 

1. Crean

2. Woody

3. Archie

 

I want Woody gone as much as anyone else but he’s not worse than Archie. Missing the tournament this season, with the roster he has will certainly change things though. 
 

I am not confident that this team makes the tourney this year. We would need to see a complete 180. And beating up on the Sam Houston States of the world, in Assembly Hall, doesn’t do much to move the needle. 

[JSHoosier 20,321]

3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

1. Moe

2. Larry

3. Curly 

A look at the "building consensus" that led to hiring Mike Woodson.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,544]

1. Crean
2. Woody
3. Archie
 
I want Woody gone as much as anyone else but he’s not worse than Archie. Missing the tournament this season, with the roster he has will certainly change things though. 
 
I am not confident that this team makes the tourney this year. We would need to see a complete 180. And beating up on the Sam Houston States of the world, in Assembly Hall, doesn’t do much to move the needle. 

3 mediocre ‘Mike’s’ if ya ask me. All have strengths and weaknesses but the final results are mediocre at best.

Crean had 3 good seasons, and 2 were really good in 8 or 9 years.

Archie had 1 season that was decent in the Covid season. 3 bad to mediocre ones.

Woody had 1 pretty decent season and 2 very mediocre seasons with better talent than Archie.

NIL changes everything, and if Woody misses the tournament as he is currently projected to do, I’d argue considering talent this is the worst result in the entire 3 coach stretch. Unacceptable and pathetic.

Right now 11 B1G schools projected in and Indiana isn’t one of them.


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7 hours ago, cleeter said:

He will never coach again after this. There was a reason he wasnt even been a thought for anyone else, and sure as hell wont be after his tenure is over here.

No need for him to work again after fleecing IU for 25 million 

[Juwan Moye 285]

I will always find it funny that Woodson told us the team was shooting 27-28 threes a game over the summer. It can really only mean one of three things, none being good:

1: he was lying

2: our 3pt defense is so bad that we get up more threes against ourselves than against even mediocre teams

3: he was combining the 3pt attempts of the two teams in the scrimmage to come up with the number

 

Not sure what other explanation you there could be. All 3 make me laugh in their own way.

[JSHoosier 20,321]

26 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I will always find it funny that Woodson told us the team was shooting 27-28 threes a game over the summer. It can really only mean one of three things, none being good:

1: he was lying

2: our 3pt defense is so bad that we get up more threes against ourselves than against even mediocre teams

3: he was combining the 3pt attempts of the two teams in the scrimmage to come up with the number

 

Not sure what other explanation you there could be. All 3 make me laugh in their own way.

Indiana shooting against Indiana's perimeter defense. That would be one ugly game to watch.

[Hornsby 2,130]

Woodson ip 4 vs a very good Miami team. Oh wait it's not Miami of the acc? Just doing his job.

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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Indiana shooting against Indiana's perimeter defense. That would be one ugly game to watch.

I think this is the source of so much issue. Our defense sucks so our offense seems like all-stars. Playing against our own perimeter defense would of course give our “offense” open lucks and thus plenty of the “3-ball”.

[Hornsby 2,130]

Bad news for Miami the Woodson halftime adjustments are coming.

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30 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Bad news for Miami the Woodson halftime adjustments are coming.

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How can anyone watch this team play and not come to the conclusion that this is a poorly coached team. It’s just UGLY 

[Hornsby 2,130]

How can anyone watch this team play and not come to the conclusion that this is a poorly coached team. It’s just UGLY 

You would be amazed. Younger guys on twitter who think making the tourney
Is like a final four love woodson.

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